Talk:Islamic University of Gaza

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Support of Terrorism

Parts of this section are claimed to be based on Chicago Tribune report while they are not. If possible, this section need to be revised according to the references (mainly the Chicago Tribune report and the USAID audit report). In reference 3, it's stated that the report found no no "derogatory information" on the Islamic University in Gaza between 2002 and 2006 -- even after Hamas claimed a parliamentary majority in Palestinian elections in 2006. That is, the report found no evidence that the IUG supports terrorism.

Fatah confiscation of Hamas weapons cache in 2007

During fighting between Hamas and Fatah, the dominating party in the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO), in February 2007, Fatah militia stormed the university and confiscated weapons and ammunition that were claimed to be stored in the University. Palestinian television aired footage showing dozens of rocket-propelled grenade launchers, rockets, and assault rifles, as well as thousands of bullets. PA President Mahmoud Abbas's officials claimed that the weaponry had been found inside the university though no evidence has been presented.

Attention is needed for this section. Particularly, the following questions are raised on the value of the contents in the context of the overall article:

• There is not evidence, even in the cited material, that these weapons are really found in the University. In particular, such claims were so frequent at the time and both parties claimed to find weapons at each others institutions.

• Also, contributors need to be aware of that Fatah is only one party in the PLO which has many other parties within it. The conflict that happened in Gaza after Hamas's domination of the Palestinian Legislative Council was particularly between Hamas and Fatah only.

Therefore, further attention is needed for this part.

I've replaced the section, with three sources (two of which were in the original section, and one quoted elsewhere in the article). The section clearly states the position of Fatah in the Palestinian government, and that the claims were made by Fatah/PLO. Gidyn (talk) 07:26, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

I've removed the weasel words from this paragraph. If there is any counter-evidence, or if the University are seriously denying it, please add this to the section. If "such claims were so frequent at the time" that the credibility of the story should be doubted, please state so explicitly, with a credible source.Gidyn (talk) 07:45, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Weapons production

Well-documented material about weapons production in the university's science labs has been repeatedly excised from this absurdly sanitized article.Historicist (talk) 20:23, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Deletion of Sourced Material

Please note that deletion of sourced material, without good cause, is Vandalism. If you do not like something, please edit it constructively, but do not blank sections simply because they do not take your fancy. Gidyn (talk)

Bias

I think there is an element of bias on this article. Namely:

• Claims that the university was founded by Sheikh Yassin, also founder of Hamas, can be misleading as implying Sheikh Yassin single handedly founded either IUG or Hamas, and thus a stronger connection between the two. It also ignores the university's own portrayal of its founding.
• Claims that the university acts as a training cenre for Hamas' leadership can imply affiliation of the university with Hamas, or that it is in a way an official training base. Given that controversy exists in this issue, and Palestinians have denied accusation of any link, the opposite claims should be given, and it should be specified that accusations are only being claimed.
• Information on the 2008 war and the bombing of the university ignores the findings of the UN Fact Finding mission on the incident, and while mentioning the call by the university for international academic support, it does not mention the response it received to this call.

I have made some changes, and also included extra independent analysis by Sara Roy on the link between Hamas and educational and social institutions in Gaza. Other smaller changes - Gaza war to 2008 Gaza war (as there have been previous wars as well), sections on donor institutions and academic partnerships, and more details on the claims made by Palestinians regarding the damage done to the university in the 2008 attacks. Mcbs19 (talk) 14:58, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

In fact, the level of bias in this article is even worse. The claim that Sheikh Ahmed Yassin founded the IUG is utterly false. This point, among others was taken from the article in the chronicle.com which seems to be a presentation of the Israeli claims rather than independent information given be chronicle itself. I would remove some of the unfounded claims unless an independent reference is given.--188.161.198.185 (talk) 20:22, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

The Chronicle of Higher Education has more credibility than an anonymous IP, which is the only source disputing this allegagation Gidyn (talk) 07:26, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

The disputed points are not given by the The Chronicle of Higher Education itself, they are claims given by an israeli spokesman and mentioned within the CHE article. If Ahmed Yassin founded the IUG you will find thousand resources confirming that. But clearly there are no resources but unfounded israeli claims spread to justify attacking the Palestinian educational institutes.--188.161.252.11 (talk) 08:35, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Although the Chronicle quotes some statements from an Israeli spokesperson, this is not amongst them. There is no reason to dismiss the Chronicle's statement simply because there aren't "thousand resources confirming that", and certainly no excuse for deleting sourced material (i.e. vandalism).

If you wish to add information, please do so, with sources. Gidyn (talk) 07:27, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Section Blanking

User 139.19.40.77 is repeatedly blanking out large swathes of sourced material. If you have reason to believe that these sections should not be present, please present your reasoning here. Do not delete others' work simply because you do not like it. Gidyn (talk) 06:55, 11 July 2010 (UTC)