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Do mustaalis believe in reincarnation?[edit]

Wikipedia articles point all ismailis believing in reincarnation,but curiously omits if the mustaali(bohras) believe or not in reincarnation. I think it should be clarified if they do or not.

Lack of Citations or References for Information Presented (July, 2012)[edit]

There is a very large lack of citable factual information presented. I believe any information that cannot be cited should be removed. Otherwise, it is difficult to trust what is presented - especially if it sounds biased.

69.165.248.173 (talk) 17:17, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Where are the Ismaili communities located ?[edit]

A section of the article should give an overview of the geography of Ismailism--Kimdime (talk) 10:31, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

There's little demographic information. How many are there overall? How many in different countries? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.201.189.117 (talk) 16:19, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

ASLAMALIKUM, I WANT TO ASK YOU A QUESTION ABOUT ISMALISM, ISMALISM SECTION ALLOWED THE ISMALI WOMEN TO MERRY OTHER SECTION LIKE SUNI, —Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.153.57.14 (talk) 13:15, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Quality[edit]

Come on, decide how you want to write names and stuff. Either write Ali with or without 'ain and the same goes for all the other words. Pleas ebe more consistent. This article is unreadable. Zorroz Msgs 15:51, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

I would agree. The diacritics are spoiling the article. I might accept Ismāʿīlism once at the top, but elsewhere in English it should be
Ismaili not Ismāʿīlī
Ismail bin Jafar not Ismāʿīl ibn Jaʿfar
Jafar al-Sadiq not Jaʿfar aṣ-Ṣādiq
Musa al-Kazim not Mūsà al-Kāżim
Muhammad not Muḥammad
Ali not ‘Alī
etc. Otherwise much of this is difficult to read on some browsers and very difficult to edit. The Ali article does it better. --Rumping (talk) 10:00, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Seriously, you did NOT just cite Facebook as a reference source for Ismailism. I am going to pretend that I didn't see that. --Gamma Draconis

The Amman Message[edit]

Previous copy indicated that the Amman Message included Ismailis, but did not source this claim and only pointed to refences that refer to them as a subset of Jafaris. Although a similar statement is made within the Amman Message by Aga Khan, the actual message only includes Zaydis and Jafaris explicitly. Furthermore, the statements of HRH Prince Ghazi bin Muhammad appear to maintain the distinction between these groups, even though he goes on to say they claim loyalty to the Jafari group. Given his role in organizing the edict his definitions should take priority unless someone can source anything within the documents or those using it demonstrating that Ismailis are included to clarify this ambiguity. MrOakes (talk) 12:42, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Isma'ili are Jafari, there is of course a distinction between Isma'ili and Twelvers. That is based on the differing approaches to theology. Isma'ilism's preference for Kalam (Philosophy) and Twelvers adoption of the Mutzalite school. Water Stirs (talk) 15:53, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

A subset means a set contained within another set. Therefore, the reason why "Ismailism" was not listed but "Jafari" was listed as a school of jurisprudence is because Ismailism cannot be listed within a primary list which is listing only the sets as a first list should. If a secondary list had been provided then Ismailism would have appeared along with the different Shia sects under the Jafari School i.e. the Twelver, the Bohra, the Druze, and the Ismaili sects. Salim e-a ebrahim (talk) 09:43, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

bin or ibn[edit]

We say ibn- but in writing its abbreviated to 'bin-___' because its a connecting word.

Ismailism is not a part of Shia Islam[edit]

Shia Islam does not consider ismailism as their part, then why have this placed in the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.167.123.60 (talk) 20:05, 15 April 2011 (UTC) Shia and Ismailism are different branches of Islam. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.177.137.196 (talk) 07:34, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
Offcourse it is . Read the Shiasm Page and you will get the Idea. The people who are popoulary known as Shia are infact Twelvers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Husainalisaifee (talkcontribs) 08:35, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Ismaili Lion?[edit]

Is the calligraphic lion really an Ismaili religious symbol? If yes, can someone please provide a reference for it? --کاشف عقیل (talk) 00:10, 28 May 2011 (UTC)