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- 1 old stuff
- 2 Elk Ivory?
- 3 What is Ivory?
- 4 request
- 5 request
- 6 Japanese hanko industry?
- 7 Dentin is dentin, right?
- 8 WP: Plagiarism
- 9 New file File:Ivory and Carriers (relates to David Livingstone) by The London Missionary Society.jpg
- 10 Rhinoceros?
- 11 "positive encouragement from comedians"
- 12 edit section hyperlinks.
- 13 Much of the trade bit of this article is simply not true
- 14 Ivory trade article now substantial
- 15 Joint Tube?
- 16 chemical structure?
- 17 Obama Ivory Ban
Is there a reliable way to distinguish ivory from bone carved items? Bob Reichard,Westborough MA
Elk supposedly have ivory teeth as well, and jewelry is made from it. I don't know enough about it to add to the article however. Someone may want to look into it. 188.8.131.52 (talk) 16:32, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
What is Ivory?
Ivory is from elephants, other such "ivory" from walrus etc is not true ivory. I removed such references 184.108.40.206 20:38, 21 August 2007 (UTC)Eric
Where is the chemical structure of the Ivory and it's formula? This article doesn't meets minimum standards without it. 220.127.116.11 07:26, 1 May 2007 (UTC) Erez Weingarten
Japanese hanko industry?
This sounds like complete nonsense. I've never seen an actual hanko owned by anyone that was made of anything other than wood or sometimes plastic. I'm sure it's possible to have an ivory one custom-made for an exorbitant price, it's probably about as common as somebody in the West getting fitted with diamond-studded gold teeth. This comment sounds like typical anti-Japanese rhetoric, probably originating (ironically) in one of those countries where where they go around lopping off tiger penises to make magic potions.--18.104.22.168 (talk) 14:13, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
I'm not an expert on hanko but I do know that China and Japan are the primary sources of contemporary ivory demand. Ivory has become important as a class symbol. A better analogy would be some other common object in the west which could be made out of gold to imply affluence and sophistication. Gold wrist watches may not be the standard type of wristwatch but they are an option for those who can afford them and wish to put their wealth on display. Ivory is demanded as means to buy into social status for those gaining the means to do so.22.214.171.124 (talk) 03:30, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
Although I've seen claims that certain numbers of ivory hanko are made in Japan (see here, for example: ), there is nothing to say that hanko are the primary source of demand for ivory. Such a ridiculous claim requires the burden of proof before being included. Kcumming (talk) 16:10, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
Dentin is dentin, right?
So if we want to make ivory piano keys, couldn't we just use the teeth of horses and cows and whatnot? you'd probably have to use three per key, but there's no shortage of cows. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 126.96.36.199 (talk) 02:47, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
This text had been recently expanded with text copy-pasted bodily from http://www.bwsmigel.info/GEO.115.ESSAYS/Gemology.Ivory.html, with awkward links at the ends of the passages. I left a note with the editor responsible, but the text should eventually be paraphrased and sourced, or else removed. Best, Eliezg (talk) 18:25, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
New file File:Ivory and Carriers (relates to David Livingstone) by The London Missionary Society.jpg
Recently the file File:Ivory and Carriers (relates to David Livingstone) by The London Missionary Society.jpg (right) was uploaded and it appears to be relevant to this article and not currently used by it. If you're interested and think it would be a useful addition, please feel free to include it. Dcoetzee 00:09, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
"positive encouragement from comedians"
the article states ^that to be part of the cause of the increase in south african elephant populations. what exactly is meant by this? how do comedians encourage elephants to breed?· Lygophile has spoken 18:24, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
Whoever edited that segment was likely referring to a celebrity endorsement of a wildlife charity similar to Pamela Anderson endorsing PETA or U2 endorsing Greenpeace. It was just poorly worded is all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.8.131.52 (talk) 02:13, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
EDIT: Some research turned up Stephen Colbert contributing to a Peta anti ivory trade expo that was held in Africa last year, I've gone ahead and fixed the entry, hope this resolves the issue —Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.108.40.206 (talk) 02:16, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
- This is in Firefox, yes? I think, it's to do with the way the pictures are placed, all at the start of the article. In IE it would be ok I think. Johnbod (talk) 14:20, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
Much of the trade bit of this article is simply not true
Large culling operations - not true, ivory trade increased because of larger South African elephant populations - not true. Yes mechanised ivory hanko production was a major problem especially from Japan in the lead up to the CITES Appendix 1 listing. Nine year moratorium decided in 1989 - not true.
Ivory trade article now substantial
I've expanded the ivory trade article which makes the "availability" section of this rather poor and unsubstantial. Rather than re-edit this should much of it be deleted with a link to ivory trade?? (Enviro2009 (talk) 18:58, 28 January 2011 (UTC))
- I've added a "main article" link but the length here seems about right. Touching up at similar length might be best. Nice expansion! Johnbod (talk) 19:43, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
For real? I'm having trouble determining whether or not this is vandalism. This is going to need some clarification. I'm going to tag it up with a citation needed for now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Unbal3 (talk • contribs) 00:30, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
There reads: The chemical structure of the teeth and tusks of mammals is the same regardless of the species of origin.
Really? What is it then? That is not mentioned. 220.127.116.11 (talk) 19:09, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
Obama Ivory Ban
This article should be updated to reflect the Executive Order issues by President Barak Obama which effectively bans the import, export, interstate trade, or sale of 'all ivory -- old and new; whether legally or illegally obtained -- in the United States. http://dailycaller.com/2014/04/16/strict-obama-administration-ivory-ban-infuriates-musicians/ http://www.forbes.com/sites/dougbandow/2014/02/17/obama-administration-treats-antique-collectors-and-dealers-as-criminals-new-ivory-rules-put-elephants-at-increased-risk/ http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/in-the-loop/wp/2014/04/15/obama-ivory-ban-traveling-musician-fearful-his-instrument-will-be-taken/ http://www.fws.gov/international/travel-and-trade/ivory-ban-questions-and-answers.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.104.22.168 (talk) 22:38, 6 June 2014 (UTC)