Talk:Jackie Sherrill

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POV-section[edit]

Because of his success at Pittsburgh, Texas A&M, and Mississippi State, the fans of Penn State, Texas, and Mississippi have a strong aversion to Sherrill.

Good grief, could this get any more POV? Trying to enter into the psychology of one's rivals is absurd and plainly out of place on Wikipedia, though well-suited to a Pitt, A&M, or Miss State message board. Also the article should be supplemented by factual material about the probation. (Here's a mention of a 1996 probation, but I thought there was one more recent than that -- I could be wrong though.) Cheers, PhilipR 06:27, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Ok so what school did you go to philip? Go find somewhere that shows him being involved with anything. Like so many schools you cannot control the boosters. Just look at Oklahoma and Big Red autos. Show some "factual" information.

What does the school I went to have to do with the price of tea in China? When a I-A school goes on probation under a given head coach, that fact is notable to the biography of the coach, full stop. Of course the article shouldn't assert that he was directly involved in the probation unless that's a verifiable fact, but it is relevant to his coaching tenure as in all similar cases no matter what school's involved. Cheers, PhilipR 21:56, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Fans of college football know that there are at least allegations of Jackie Sherill being involved in paying players. Whether they are true or not is a different story but there are many different views about that. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/writers/mike_fish/09/28/straight.shooting/index.html That's a link to an article in sports illustrated about scandals which deals with Jackie Sherrill a little bit.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=1681690 Another article from espn about allegations of cheating while Sherrill was at MSU. It also mentions violations committed at A&M while Sherrill was there.

I added lines about NCAA violations, all of which were backed by references. Corpx 07:50, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

This article must have been written by a member of Jackie Sherrill's family. It is so blatantly NPOV that it isn't funny. For example, noting him as a 'winning coach' at MSU 'except for the last three seasons.' The guy had losing records in 1993, 1995, and 1996. In thirteen years that's SIX losing seasons, about normal for a guy whose record at said school was .500.

Mississippi State was put on probation TWICE during Sherrill's tenure - and even if he were not involved with it, it has DIRECT BEARING on the fact he would have been fired had he not resigned. A&M was also put on probation at the end of his reign.

One might wish to note that Sherrill was the coach who recruited perhaps the greatest QB in NFL history and coached him at Pitt, Dan Marino.

Revert war - Praise for Sherrill and Texas A&M program[edit]

Twice I've removed this sentence: "Jackie Sherrill is known for rekindling a strong Aggie football program and the Aggies continue their quest for perfection even to this day." I'll remove it again, subject to the Three-revert rule. It's simply fluff praising the coach and the program with no factual content. "Rekindling a strong Aggie football program" I'll grant but you need to state facts per WP:PEACOCK. "The Aggies continue their quest for perfection even to this day" is just press-release filler that in no way distinguishes TAMU from the other 118 I-A programs. I have nothing for or against the Aggies' program but the way to demonstrate their greatness in Wikipedia is with facts, not with airy prose about their quest for perfection.

If you really can't see why this sentence isn't encyclopedic, I encourage you to read WP:V, WP:NPOV and WP:PEACOCK. After reading those guidelines, if you want to show with facts why Sherrill's tenure at TAMU was critical to establishing TAMU's present success then I can't complain. - PhilipR 00:14, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Neutraliyt/Miss State[edit]

Can somebody what's being disputed in that section? I'll remove the notice in a few days if no objections are raised. Corpx 06:42, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

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Unknown side of Sherrill Section[edit]

For the second time I removed the section regarding the "side of Sherrill the public hasn't gotten to see". This time, there was at least a source, but the source didn't actually cover most of the information in the section. Additionally, the page itself says: "This page consists of facts that I have read and rumors that I have heard or been emailed. I cannot vouch for the accuracy of the rumors, but I want all of you to know what I know" so I highly doubt it meets WP:V, esp. for a living person. Additionally, the section sounds like it's written by a close friend or family member who has inside information, see WP:NPOV and WP:NOR. I have no problem with this information or other sorts of similar things being put on there, but it needs to be sourced to something reliable and written in a reasonably encyclopedic fashion. It also probably belongs in a separate section. Erusdruidum (talk) 23:29, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

And, reverted the same block of text with the same questionable source again. Erusdruidum (talk) 11:31, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
And, once more. Taking this to the BLP Noticeboard Erusdruidum (talk) 12:04, 7 April 2010 (UTC)