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The "Shady Deal at Sunny Acres" section…
…seems like an unnecessary digression into a subject more fitting for “Maverick” info; true, it is about a series in which Garner appeared, but whether or not it influenced “The Sting” seems to be neither relevant to a bio of Garner, nor more than heresay. I suspect that the truth is that Roy Huggins read exactly the same source book as the writers of “The Sting”, that is, David Maurer’s “The Big Con: The Story of the Confidence Man” (it was/ is the go-to book for anyone needing detail of how “long cons” work, and has influenced writers for decades, so there’s an episode of the “The Lives of Harry Lime” radio series which uses much of the same plot in the fifties, and episodes of “Hustle” drew on it in the last few years. Jock123 (talk) 20:50, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
Is the National Inquirer considered a valid source on Wiki??
On May 28, 2014, The National Enquirer reported that James Garner's health was failing rapidly and that he was battling severe depression in addition to the aftermath of his previous strokes. The article cited a source claiming that Garner had been scheduled to make a cameo appearance in a Rockford Files remake, starring Vince Vaughn, but that Garner was "too ill to take part in the show"" and that Garner felt he had "nothing left to live for".
- I came here wondering the same thing. I question if they meet the standard given in WP:SOURCE. SilverhandTalk 15:02, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
- It's called National Enquirer, and yes, it is a reliable source — probably more reliable than many publications considered "reliable sources" by some very-biased Wikipedia editors, despite it's reputation as a tabloid. National Equirer was sued some years ago for libel, and since then they've instituted very strict fact-checking before publishing. The paper has carried stories weeks or months in advance of the "Main Street Media" that subsequently proved to be completely true, such as the Clinton-Lewinski sex scandal in 1998. Garner's death a few days ago has once again proven the paper's veracity. Please take note, user Mlpearc. — QuicksilverT @ 20:36, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
- Note you typo'd the spelling once, too, Hg. As far as the rest of it, it's hard to tell if you're joking, but I'll take the bait. "Sued some years ago for libel" is like saying "McDonald's served a burger some years ago". Even the LA Times gets sued more than that. As far as whether they're accurate, even people that think Fox News (or CNN, take your pick) is unbiased roll their eyes when you mention the Enquirer. If you print enough half-truths and speculation, some of it will turn out to be true – "even a broken clock is right twice a day". To cite them in WP, when we're not interested in breaking news, and can wait for the real reporters, is completely unnecessary. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 01:14, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
- Is that even a reliable source? It doesn't appear to be. - BilCat (talk) 22:12, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
- Whether or not it's reliable, it is accurate, so since it isn't true, there's no need to mention the Cherokee claim in the article (it could simply say nothing). There are genealogies of Garner's maternal grandfather (the one who was said to be Cherokee) here and here, and Garner's mother's family are listed as "White" on censuses (here, here, and here). All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 23:18, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
- Garner has claimed in multiple sources that his mother was at least part Cherokee. You have to have reliable sources to disprove that. Looking at genealogical records and declaring they are accurate is original research, and isn't a valid reason for overturning what Garner has claimed. Even if there is a reliable source that has researched the issue, which to this point hasn't been presented Garner still made the claim, and that should still be included in the article. WP doesn't decide what is truth - it reports v what reliable sources say. - BilCat (talk) 09:07, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
James Garner, RIP
"Mr Garner died of natural causes," the West LA Division of the Los Angeles Police Department told the BBC, adding he died on Saturday. http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-28390309 184.108.40.206 (talk) 01:26, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
I aligned the quality indicators in the banners to be B-class. After all, it's been improved via the ITN process and must be a B-class to be posted, per the instructions. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:23, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
Why the weirdness about Kim's age?
My birthday is the same as Kim Clarke's birthday, 8/25/1948 (we had a joint 8th birthday party). The references to her age in this article imply there is something incorrect about the various sources of her age, but they look ok to me. Tina Kimmel (talk) 01:54, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
Book; The James Garner Files A MEMOIR, by James Garner and Jon Winokur , ISBN 9781-4516-4261-2
This book printed in 2011 has information about his life. James Garner himself explains what kind of man he is and facts about his life. They have not been verified, but these facts only James Garner would know.
Stroke in 2008
Orphaned references in James Garner
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of James Garner's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "LAT":
- From Nancy Kulp: "Nancy Kulp; Foil in 'Beverly Hillbillies'". Articles.latimes.com. 2000-01-21. Retrieved 2012-11-17.
- From James Garner filmography: Dennis McLellan. "James Garner dies at 86; TV antihero of 'Maverick,' 'Rockford Files'". The Los Angeles Times. Retrieved 21 July 2014.
- From Stephen J. Cannell: Rosenberg, Howard (September 16, 1992). "TV REVIEW : 'The Hat Squad' Is Not a Good Fit". The Los Angeles Times.
Reference named "Variety":
- From Stephen J. Cannell: Cannell wins back rights to TV series Cynthia Littleton variety.com May 4, 1998, Retrieved on August 30, 2014
- From James Garner filmography: Richard Natale. "James Garner of ‘Maverick,’ ‘Rockford Files,’ Dies at 86". Variety. Retrieved 21 July 2014.
- From Michael Caine: "Variety Club honours actor Caine". BBC News (BBC). 17 November 2008. Retrieved 17 November 2008.
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 12:19, 17 January 2015 (UTC)