Talk:James Hormel

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Copyrighted material[edit]

I removed material from his ambassadorship due to copyright violations (it was copy-pasted from the here on Please do not restore the material but instead write a passage using the reliable non-opinion sources. I have saved them here:

  • <ref name="Human Events">{{cite web | title= Human Events | publisher=New York Times | date=16 July 1999 | url =| accessdate=2008-07-07}}</ref>
  • <ref name="Hormel's partner">{{cite web | last = Holland | first =Judy | title= Hormel's partner sees win for minorities; Mainstream America rejected anti-gay comments, Timothy Wu says | publisher=The San Francisco Examiner | date=1 July 1999 | url = | accessdate=2008-07-07}}</ref>
  • <ref name="Queers in History">{{cite web | last = Stern | first =Keith | title= Queers in History |, ISBN:1847283489 | date=2006 | url= | accessdate=2008-07-07}}</ref>
  • <ref name="Floor Statement">{{cite web | last =Leahy | first =Patrick | title=Floor Statement on the Nomination of John Ashcroft to the Office of Attorney General | publisher=Senator Patrick Leahy | date=29 January 2001 | url = | accessdate=2008-07-07}}</ref>

Simply appending them does not undo a copyright violation. Thank you. Hekerui (talk) 08:36, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Just FYI, is hardly an opinion source. Thank you for citing the copyvio original material though. -- Banjeboi 17:51, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
With opinion I meant the Frank Rich column, which you put back in. Hekerui (talk) 18:17, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
OK, in looking at that source it is an opinion peice from the New York Times which is otherwise a reliable source. It is being used to source that Wu was Hormel's partner and held the Bible, etc. The sentences are - The next afternoon, the first openly gay American Ambassador, James Hormel, was sworn in as our envoy to Luxembourg, with his partner, Timothy Wu, holding the Bible. I think this is well within acceptable uses of an opinion piece. -- Banjeboi 19:58, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Life partner?[edit]

The "Personal life" section describes Michael P. Nguyen as Hormel's "life partner." Since Hormel is 77 years old, has had a wife and at least two other male partners before living with Mr. Nguyen for only the past four years, wouldn't it make more sense to call Mr Nguyen Hormel's "present partner" or "current partner"? Badmintonhist (talk) 21:00, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

umm... "life partner" is the equivalent of "committed relationship" (and often "married") in places and times where gays are not permitted to marry. -- (talk) 17:28, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Conflict of interest edits[edit]

In recent months material in this biographical article has been removed by (apparently) the article's subject. The removal of pertinent and reliably sourced material by an article's subject, it seems to me, is a clear violation of WP:Conflict of Interest. Therefore, I am restoring the most recent deletion involving the swearing-in ceremony for Mr. Hormel's ambassadorship. Badmintonhist (talk) 19:20, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[edit]

Firstly, every external article must be cited to the author of the piece, not merely the site. Citing only to a site name, gives a false authority to the work. The particular author of that external piece is a non-notable author, not previously published by any third-party publication, and not notable as an authority for biography. So in accordance with our criteria for reliable sources, I have removed the link.Wjhonson (talk) 22:37, 2 December 2010 (UTC)