Talk:James Larkin

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Date of birth[edit]

Although Larkin himself, and many subsequent writers, thought he had been born in 1876, his birth certificate actually shows (pace O'Connor) that he was born in 1874. Hence the discrepancy between the date cited and the title of one of the references.Palmiro 00:59, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I have a copy of the parish records for James Larkin, the son of James & Mary Ann (McNulty)which state that he was was baptised in St Patrick's church,Toxteth Park, Liverpool, 04 Feb 1874 (Born 28 Jan 1874). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daulby2011 (talkcontribs) 01:07, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Issues outstanding for work[edit]

1. Larkin as editor (The Harp in 1910, the Irish Worker in his ITGWU period, and several other organs) 2. The tempestuous nature of Larkin's relationships with colleagues and his autocratic manageent style, which was a factor in many of his rows and failures, perhaps needs to be pointed out in a more general way. 3. Account of Belfast strike is as per Boyd (cited in article) and may need to be re-examined 4. More detail on period 1907 - 1913 Palmiro 01:43, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

5. Someone can add in that his aim was to help unskilled labourers to unionize. Most skilled / craft workers had their own unions by 1900.Red Hurley 08:57, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 14:56, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Family origins & Co Down[edit]

The article has nothing about his parents' place of birth in Ireland, and his mother's surname. This would make it better. It also doesn't tell us why he ended up living his final years in Co Down, when he retired, and how many children he had. 109.77.86.100 (talk) 20:23, 11 November 2011 (UTC)


march in liverpool[edit]

a march comemorating him took place in liverpool this week , there was an oposing demonstration giving out leaflets saying larkin was IRA and that this march was for the IRA here a local news link http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/2012/07/21/massive-police-operation-keeps-rivals-apart-at-james-larkin-march-100252-31445627/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.5.43.34 (talk) 21:20, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

The above post is somewhat misguided. A local paper (Liverpool Echo)some years ago highlighted the Liverpudlian marching drum and fife band as connected to Irish Republican Activists such as IRA/INLA/RIRA etc (call them what you will) therefore the protestations were not aimed at James Larkin himself but the band. The band its'self issues a regular blog promoting such organisations classed as 'statements' http://jimlarkinrfb.blogspot.co.uk/ of which the last one ends "Victory to the IRA" I do enjoy the St Pats parades but clarity and not personal allegience should not be confused for the success of James Larkin's memory to prevail, — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.234.132.134 (talk) 20:05, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

Fair day's work, fair day's pay[edit]

An editor recently added a claim that Larkin created the phrase, "a fair day's work for a fair day's pay", providing the citation of a recent article. The article made a bit less of a claim, stating that it was, "one of his less well-remembered slogans," which might simply mean he said it often. The claim he coined it seems highly dubious to me. The American Federation of Labor had a similar phrase ("a fair day's wage for a fair day's work") as a slogan since the 1800's. Unless Larkin himself coined it for them, he surely would have heard of the slogan at least from being involved in the IWW in the 1910's. The Industrial Workers of the World had a criticism of that motto in the preamble to its constitution since its founding in 1905. If this claim is true, I think it needs better citation than a passing mention in an evergreen opinion piece, and there's several articles to update to reflect the information. If no objections, I'll remove the claim. djr13 (talk) 08:09, 6 March 2013 (UTC)