Talk:Jason Williams (basketball, born 1975)

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NEEDS MAJOR OVERHAUL[edit]

Very one sided and flattering. Will try my best to elimante weasel words. Feel free to help.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.135.183.38 (talk) 02:05, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Needs citations and grammar check. Manic Hispanic 06:32, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm really skeptical about what I'm reading in the controversy section. The grammar is horrible and there are no citations.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.180.24.207 (talk) 18:14, 1 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

VERY biased against williams. it portrays him as a terrible person. Though he has made mistakes, recently he has proven differently. Furthermore, this article left out the very important fact that pat riley has been changing his style of play to a less show-off style. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.11.137.178 (talk) 06:36, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Why is the entire Kings career section just controversies that he had? There's no information about him playing basketball or his career at all during that time 98.163.4.32 (talk) 18:12, 20 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Possible Misinformation[edit]

Can anyone confirm that Jason Williams came out as a homosexual? I don't remember the announcement, because if he had come out, it would have been the buzz all around the sports nation. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.133.226.41 (talk) 00:18, 2 May 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Nope, Williams is not a homosexual and any information regarding the same has never been reported. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ecthelion 8 (talk • contribs) 13:14, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Neutrality tag[edit]

Can the NPOV tag be removed? I don't see anything in this article that is particularly one-sided. Can someone either remove the tag or clarify what is disputed? MrShamrock (talk) 18:34, 5 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Request edit[edit]

"In the 2007–08 season, Williams played 67 games while averaging 28.8 points and 10.6 assists per game. He shot 68 percent from the field, 87 percent from the line, 45 percent from beyond the three-point arc, and averaged 3.3 steals per game. His best month was March where he averaged 43.7 points and 12.1 assists while shooting 63 percent from beyond the arc and 52 percent from the field. Also in March, he had 34 points versus Orlando, connecting on five three-point baskets. He had two double-doubles: one against Phoenix and one against the Bucks. Both were 41 point, 20 assist performances."

-These statistics are completely wrong.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.198.200.58 (talk) 18:30, 23 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • I have not yet parsed the edit history to determine who added these stats, but there is a peculiar kind of game played on Wikipedia where anonymous users or vandalism accounts add as much false information as they can to see what they can get away with. I just checked Basketball-Reference.com for Williams' 2007–08 season:
  • 114 x 2 = 228 points;
  • 97 x 3 = 291 points;
  • 69 x 1 = 69 points;
  • total = 588 points;
  • 588 points / 67 games = 8.7 points per game
  • 2 x double-doubles
  • 41.5% from 2-point range;
  • 35.3% from 3-point range; and
  • 86.3% from free-throw line.
Here's the link: [1]. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 23:23, 23 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 13 May 2019[edit]

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The result of the move request was: No consensus to move — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:38, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

– Yes I know that the name “Jason Williams” has many entries, but it seems that the basketball player born in 1975 is the primary topic. His article averages 1,349 views per day. The next most is the ice hockey player with only 55 views per day. Another person with the name averages 23, another with 17, and the rest are 5 or less. If you are opposed to renaming “Jason Williams (basketball, born 1975)” to “Jason Williams”, please voice your opinion on the possibility of alternatively renaming “Jason Williams (basketball, born 1975)” to “Jason Williams (basketball)”. The basketball player born in 1975 seems to have even more of a stronghold as the primary topic among basketball players with the same name. Mrbeastmodeallday (talk) 04:22, 13 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support per nom. Pageviews over the past four years strongly favour the basketball player, and while the dab page got a lot of traffic from 2015-17 it seems fairly evident from the graph who people were looking for. PC78 (talk) 11:56, 13 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - There are WAY too many people by that name and frankly the basketball player isn’t a household name by any stretch (this from a huge hoops fan). Rikster2 (talk) 12:27, 13 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - Rikster2's rationale seems to be spot on. The requested change seems to be based on WP:RECENTISM, which should be avoided.Onel5969 TT me 13:12, 13 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Onel5969: How does "recentism" apply? He's a retired player born in 1975 and one of the oldest people named on the dab page (none of those listed were born before 1966). In fact the article doesn't say a great deal about what he's been doing since his retirement in 2011. I'm not familiar with the subject, but I don't see how this move request is influenced by recent events. PC78 (talk) 18:46, 13 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support The DAB page spike is pretty convincing that people searching Jason Williams primarily want the basketball player. Nohomersryan (talk) 20:14, 13 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak oppose: Lots of candidates, with the current popularity seeming to be at least partly recentism. His fame is likely to fade as time goes on. I don't see anything in the article that suggests he will still be more popular than all the other topics with that name (combined) in 20 years. —BarrelProof (talk) 21:53, 13 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support: Page views are more than 10 times all other Jason Williams's put together. Rracecarr (talk) 14:56, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per Rikster2, Onel5969 and BarrelProof. With 16 men bearing this very common name listed at the Jason Williams disambiguation page, any potential WP:PRIMARYTOPIC would require an extremely high level of notability throughout the entire English-speaking world. This sports figure simply does not rise to that level. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 06:53, 17 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. By any reasonable definition, he is the primary topic. Calidum 14:25, 18 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Fails the "long-term significance" criteria of WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, combined with the ambiguity that there are two other Jason William's who are basketball players with articles.—Bagumba (talk) 09:08, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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