Talk:Jennifer Granholm

New website for extrernal links.

Governor Granholm's leadership fund, the Granholm Leadership Fund, has a new official website at www.JenniferGranholm.com. This should be listed in the external links section as it is one of her two primary websites.

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BetacommandBot (talk) 09:29, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

I would like to think that since she's governor of Michigan that it would only be appropriate to use the Michigan seal. News networks often place the state seal next to their respective governor when used in a story. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.231.215.117 (talk) 19:15, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Controversies

After a few long discussions about this article, I went through news searches to find citations to controversies. I selected three of the most prominent ones: the Wayne County contracts from her primary (which one poll I read said that 18% of voters thought it was important to their decision); the Kilpatrick memo, which was one of the most prominent controversies of the 2002 campaign particularly because it arrived in late September and early October so close to the election; and the budget cuts with the Bible verse, because it did receive a fair amount of media and related directly to one of her most significant events over her first term, namely balancing the budget. There are several other controversies that have documented supported (e.g., lowering the flag for troops as an alleged protest to the war in Iraq; a statement regarding slave reparations; two Democrats petitioning Granholm not to hold a special election because they said their counties could not afford it; her appointment of Blackwell in Highland Park after firing Pearson; her dispute with Superintendent Tom Watkins; revealing that she failed to vote in a few local school board elections; her Christmas executive order barring the state from discriminating against homosexuals; her canceled visit to Marian High School, a Catholic school inviting her as a Catholic, due to her position on abortion; hiring 12 additional new lawyers in the waning days of her position as attorney general). I didn't think it would be appropriate to include every bit of minutiae, but I thought in case someone thinks that another one of these was worth placing on the page, I could finish the research on it and include it. Zz414 22:42, 14 November 2006 (UTC) Also.....what about getting her buddy into the Detroit Medical Center and the bailout...which seemed correct to do, but Duggan is one of her lawyer friends and is obviously at her beck and call. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.245.82.144 (talk) 04:19, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

adding a separate controversy section is against WP policy and those sections need to be placed inline with the rest of the text, not as currently... so I will do this myself btw. 72.0.180.2 (talk) 01:27, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Michigander/Michiganian

Because of a naming dispute concerning what to call a Michigan native, I decided to use the term "Michigan native" in place of Michiganian or Michigander.

• I was born and raised in Michigan. Michigander is the correct term. I have never heard us referred to as "Michiginians." 76.177.118.178 (talk)

I am from Michigan. Michiganer is acceptable —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stephan.ohsowski (talk • contribs) 05:57, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

I've lived in Michigan for years and I can say people tend to cringe when they hear "Michiganian". The correct term I've always heard and use to refer is "Michigander" (never Michiganer). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.231.215.117 (talk) 19:09, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

The term for a "Michigan Native" seems to be a matter of opinion. From personal experience, Michigander is the most common term that I've heard. Only recently has Michiganian popped up as a term. A comedic writer (Dave Barry?) once indicated that Michigander shows that Michigan natives are able to poke a little fun at themselves. I like that and I like that as a reason to make "Michigander" the official name of Michigan Natives <J Jonckheere 2010/02/04> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.243.187.81 (talk) 03:34, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Swede- Finns

"She has some Finnish and Swedish ancestors who were born in the Swedish-speaking part of Finland." If they were all born in Finland, they are not Swedish, they are Finnish. They are Finns whose native tongue is Swedish. In Finland there are two official languages. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Diogenes99 (talk • contribs) 03:25, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Not only Swedish, but Norwegian too

She was born in British Columbia by a immigrated Norwegian mother and an immigrated Swedish father. She has a Norwegian grand mother. I have added the Norwegian part to the bio.

http://www.wargs.com/political/granholm.html

http://www.metrotimes.com/editorial/story.asp?id=3528

https://www.mlui.org/print.asp?fileid=16816

Mortyman (talk) 11:43, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Slanted Article / POV Check

Most of the article has too positive a tone, in light of the high disapproval rating of Governor Granholm. It can be improved by noting the link between her Harvard Law School training and her anti-business policies. It omits her oppositon to the referendum that banned race preferences. It omits her link to the UAW. It touches on the flight of young Michiganders to non-Michigan states, but doesn't emphasize the importance of this phenomenon. It omits the fawning treatment of Governor Granholm by the Michigan news media.

Balance is needed.

Oneibj (talk) 08:04, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Balance? Give me a break - almost the entire "Campaign for Governor" is devoted to alleged improprieties on the part of the Governor, and in not one of these cases was the Governor found guilty of any wrongdoing. This article is slanted alright. 72.33.71.167 (talk) 14:09, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

This article is indeed VERY slanted. NOTHING is even mentioned about Granholm's botched negotiations with Comerica Bank and Electrolux (aka Frigidaire). Lordnmb (talk) 09:58, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

"And in FIVE YEARS... You're going to blown away!" Why is there no mention of Jenny's classic soundbite? We're STILL waiting to be BLOWN away Granholm! 71.205.57.121 (talk) 10:05, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Because that is too controversial and is considered POV. Steelbeard1 (talk) 12:01, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

I have to concur with the question of bias. While I'm not necessarily convinced that the "blown away" statement needs to be included, it seems that nearly every one of the state's woes are blamed on the national economy. This reads like a corporate bio, more than an encyclopedic article. This is why I've nominated the article for a POV check. -- Kevin (talk)

• This article is not at all balanced. Reading it, I was surprised at how much has been omitted from it. I'm one of those "young people" who moved away from Michigan. And I was involved in a campaign when Granholm was Attorney General that was quite the debacle. I wouldn't claim to know all the facts, but that is why I come to Wikipedia - to get a balanced view on a subject. This article does need a POV check. 76.177.118.178 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 05:27, 21 August 2009 (UTC).

I believe that many of these complaints are just that - complaints without any actual "substance". For example, if whomever wants to add (cited) information about Granholm's botched negotions with Comerica, then make an actual addition and not just complain about it not being there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.231.215.117 (talk) 19:07, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

This article is definitely slanted. Take for example this entire paragraph of all new businesses in Michigan "In 2006, United Solar Ovonic announced it would build plants in Greenville, MI to add to its plants in Auburn ..... Center for American Progress estimates that Michigan could create over 60,000 jobs by investing in renewable energy technologies. [61]" This is obviously a POV attempt to make Granholm look good. If it is okay to include information about all new businesses that have started during her term (obviously with the intent of giving her credit), then it would also be justifiable to include information about all businesses that have closed. The overload of information would make the article ridiculous. 70.23.244.7 (talk) 16:09, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

A POV check is definitely needed. Posting unfounded accusations is definitely a violation of POV. Your opinions are not facts. MSUalum08 (talk) 16:21, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Middle Name

What was her given middle name at birth? I've looked high and low and can find no mention of it. It's not a crucial fact, but it's one that'd be nice to know and add further value to the page. --Criticalthinker (talk) 01:33, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Link to source with Granholm's collegiate/post-grad credentials for reference sourcing

http://www.michigan.gov/documents/6430-2001_2000_Biennial_Rep_67088_7.pdf -- 67.183.212.17 (talk) 18:07, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Biased Puff Piece

Whew! Nothing about the repeated job killing tax hikes that made Michigan the poster child for what NOT to do. Nothing about the 16% unemployment rate. Nothing about "Jobless Jenny" being the most unpopular governor in history. Nothing about a people so sickened by her 8 years of corruption and sleaze that they elected Republican government from top to bottom. Quite a legacy but don't look to this article to find it. 72.221.83.190 (talk) 17:28, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Presidential Ambitions?

Has she expressed any Presidential interests? Any citations?

69.171.160.182 (talk) 16:39, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

She was born in Canada. She cannot be President, thank God. She destroyed Michigan.

"Article 2, Section 1 of the Constitution: "No person except a natural born citizen ... shall be eligible to the office of president."

Thismightbezach (talk) 18:03, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

President? Of what? LOL. She was president maybe of the Committee To Make Michigan A Solidly Republican State. 72.221.83.190 (talk) 15:01, 20 October 2011 (UTC)