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I had thought there were secondary sources backing up Ortega's claim regarding Pouw confirming that "Jesus is a figment of the imagination," but after spending some time on Google, there are none. It's not reliable enough for inclusion and even more so due to WP:BLP issues as Pouw does not seem to have acknowledged what she is alleged to have said. Laval (talk) 11:03, 25 August 2013 (UTC)