As far as I know, in modern usage, a jetty is just a short pier. Is most of this terminological definition still accurate? Stevage 06:21, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
The first sentence is 70 words long. It reads like it was written 100 years ago because it was. The basic definition of a Jetty is buried in the second sentence. If anyone chooses to edit this article, I think if you just break the Dickensian meanderings down into sensible lengths the actual content will turn out alright. 184.108.40.206 10:59, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
There are too many run-on sentences in this article. Grammar and punctuation mistakes make it worse. 16:43, 14 June 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.127.116.11 (talk)
I have read the introductory paragraph several times, and I can't make heads or tails of it. It never says what a jetty is. The first sentence identifies a jetty as "any of a variety of structures"--that is awfully vague. It goes on to explain where one finds jetties and what they're made of, but it never says what exactly the thing is. Someone who knows what a jetty is (I confess I do not) needs to re-write that paragraph to open with a clear, succinct explanation. 18.104.22.168 (talk) 10:47, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
I wrote the previous comment (16 April 2011), and on a whim I just returned to this article to see how it stands. Unfortunately the monstrosity of a first sentence is still as ungainly and incomprehensible as ever, and the entire article still contains no whiff of a concise, readable definition. Just in case anyone out there is reading this, inquiring minds want to know: What is a jetty? Chalkieperfect (talk) 01:54, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
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Someone has put a merger proposal tag on the Mole (architecture). In view of the above points, as well as my own views infra, I'm against such a merger. For a starter, I agree that a jetty is a small pier. By contrast, a mole is a massive structure. A mole is a specifically combined structure of causeway and pier, and has nothing to do with being a breakwater, extending a river channel, etc. It's sole purpose is to enable docking of large vessels in deep water where extensive marshlands or shallows intervene. The usage also appears to have been peculiarly common in the San Francisco Bay. The articles should stay distinct, and especially so until this article has been edited further to conform with the emerging consensus as to the definition of "jetty". Tmangray (talk) 19:10, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
I'd agree with no merge, but the Mole entry seems very much biased towards the Bay Area. It's a term used in a fair few European locales too; the article right now reads as if the first historical usage was San francisco, and I'd put a lot of money on that being not the case MadScot (talk) 00:25, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
They appear to be the same type of structure, but of different sizes; a mole being very large and jetty being smaller.
As they serve the same general purpose, I agree, they should be merged.
While I suppose a mole is a type of jetty, it is very different from other constructions. Most piers are mounted on piles while moles are usually solid stone, no water flows under them. There is no pressing need for a merge, I would be in favour of keeping them seperate. Moles could still be mentioned here as well if they really are classified architecturally as jetties (although I don't know if that is true). SpinningSpark 20:17, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
I think Mole is important, because the word had a wide historical usage in Europe, as a word for a massive sea wall, based on the Latin word for the concept of massive pile. It comes from the same word family as Molar in chemistry (6x10E23). I do think the idea, and the etmology is important, because I personally don't believe the architectural concept is in anyway mutually exclusive of jetty and breakwater - and that is exactly why it needs its own article, to cover its various uses and instances.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Unoquha (talk • contribs) 19:13, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Let's close this one out now and remove the merge template. It's been open for seven months and attracted only one supporter, so there is no consensus for a merge. SpinningSpark 18:51, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
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