Talk:Jihad

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jihad bis saif etc[edit]

Please add Arabic wording. Selfhatingmuslim (talk) 04:22, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

Adding about the usage of word in the Quran and the hadiths in the lead section[edit]

I've added about the usage of the word in the Quran and hadiths in the lead section of article which I think is important to illustrate the term and to understand it in the Quranic context and the context of the hadiths. If someone has a problem or would like to raise a question then please do ask. Thank you. KahnJohn27 (talk) 12:24, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

The context you added is from biased sources. Please use an unbiased source

One of your sources is a website designed only to publish material against Islam and the author of the book you used is an Israeli author who writes against Islam. I have already mentioned this in the last section on this pageFreeatlastChitchat (talk) 18:02, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

origin of the term[edit]

Unsourced claim that it did not appear in Arabic before. That's not saying much,a s there wasn't much writing in Arabic before that. But the triconsonantal root GHD appears in 2 Kings in Hebrew. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.214.72.31 (talk) 23:22, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 February 2015[edit]

The sentence that uses source #6 is false deceptive. The sentence reads "In the context of Quran, the word occurs 164 times[6] and is most of the time implied or the term Qital (fighting) is used." The sentence makes the argument that the word jihad occurs in the Quran 164 times however, this is immediately contradicted in the same sentence saying that it is only implied 164 times or that some other word (qital) is used, which is not in any way synonymous with the term jihad, and seeks to deceive the reader into believing that the verses are about jihad when they are of an entirely different subject. Additionally the sentence references an illegitimate source that is not only bias but inaccurate in many ways. Finally, the sentence is in immediate contradiction with the following sentence that states, ""Jihad" as the exact form "JHAD"(جهاد) appears only twice in the Qur'an (Qur'an 60:1[7] and 9:24[8])." I would suggest removing the sentence ("In the context of Quran, the word occurs 164 times[6] and is most of the time implied or the term Qital (fighting) is used.) which uses source #6 (http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Themes/jihad_passages.html) along with its source from this entry. If one were to examine source #6 she/he would realize the count is based on a completely false definition of jihad and that it is far from any academic work and does not meet the standards for a reputable source that can be used in Wikipedia.

Thank you, Anton Zea.Anton (talk) 02:23, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

I have removed the information as the source is biased. When a new source is found the information can go back in. Thank you for pointing out. FreeatlastChitchat (talk) 02:39, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
(Pinging KahnJohn27 since he added the content being discussed. Stickee (talk) 05:54, 26 February 2015 (UTC))
@FreeatlastChitchat: your edit summary said you were removing 2 biased sources, however you actually removed 4 sources. Which were the 2 concerned? I assume answering-islam.org is the first, since it is addressed in the above comment. Stickee (talk) 05:50, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
I removed the biased sources which were the main source. The other two sources are just being used to source verses and hadith. They are not important, as you can pick up Quran verses from any source you want they almost always agree. However I apologize for not mentioning this in my summary , I should have done so. the second source which I found to be biased is http://www.meforum.org/ which according to its own words is " a Philadelphia-based think tank, which works to define and promote American interests in the Middle East and protect Western values from Middle Eastern threats."FreeatlastChitchat (talk) 06:57, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
@FreeatlastChitchat: Sorry I did not notice this before. Now that I think you are right. Answering Islam and meforum are biased. Answering Islam contains many mistakes in articles and ignores other scripture while only taking those into account which might prove its argument further correct. Sorry I did not notice this. I'll try to find reliable sources on the topic. Thank you. KahnJohn27 (talk) 14:22, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 March 2015[edit]

Jihad means to fight with the evil in you. who derailed you from the path of god Jdakhtar24 (talk) 07:45, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Cannolis (talk) 09:14, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

Content forks[edit]

Rape jihad and Anal jihad have been added to the article by User:Bryce Carmony. Can you please explain why you are adding these here? You know that these are Fringe, Content forks and a lot of other things which means they should not be here. Feel free to explain why should be included , even when one of the two is up for deletionFreeatlastChitchat (talk) 11:05, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Sexual jihad is listed and Rape jihad would be something of interest a reader would look for who is reading an article Jihad I personally think we should merge Rape and anal jihad into sexual jihad or possible name a new article Sexuality in jihad but the way we improve articles is by linking them so readers and editors read from one to the next. Bryce Carmony (talk) 11:09, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
The natural and non POV agenda based way is to mention these in sexual jihad and as sexual jihad is linked here there is no need to link these two seperately. I have added them to [Sexual Jihad]] and that is linked here FreeatlastChitchat (talk) 11:12, 6 April 2015 (UTC)