Talk:Jim Gray (computer scientist)

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Death[edit]

The article lists him as "lost at sea January 28, 2007" It's been 8 months, with no sign of him, noe of his boat, and no life rafts. Can't we assume that he's dead now, and update the bio block with jan 28 2007 as his presumed date of death, or should we wait a whole a year? 70.106.211.31 23:13, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

(It's been a year now.) I imagine that "lost at sea" translates into "dead" for many people anyway. Until he's declared legally dead by an appropriate court, I see no reason to change it. (BTW, has piracy ever been mentioned? It would explain why no wreckage was ever found.) Eriksiers (talk) 19:41, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
"Wednesday when a court in San Francisco granted a petition by Donna Carnes, Dr. Gray’s widow, to establish her husband’s death under California law, which allows for such a determination when a missing person has not been heard from for five continuous years. Dr. Gray is now considered missing but presumed dead." from [Closure in Disappearance of Computer Scientist By NICK WINGFIELD | May 18, 2012 http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/05/18/closure-in-disappearance-of-computer-scientist-jim-gray/ NYTimes blog] Jodi.a.schneider (talk) 19:26, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Information to add[edit]

Should current information about his current situation at sea be added?

Link to add[edit]

Please add this web link to your Wikipedia page.

Interview with Jim Gray on MSDN Channel 9, "Behind the Code":

http://channel9.msdn.com/Showpost.aspx?postid=168181 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sistifer (talkcontribs)

Done (but remember to sign your posts with ~~~~). Matteo 10:03, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

The Amazon HIT is now done, I believe. Nascheme 23:08, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

The article mentions that his family follows up on important leads. So, who do you contact if you have one?

Contact the police or the coast guard - SimonLyall (talk) 11:41, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Link to Gray's final interview[edit]

Unless someone can confirm this interview took place, it's title is morbid and could be viewed in poor taste. Several people have tried to insert it today. Ronbo76

The interview, on Microsoft internal TV, was given away on DVD at his Berkeley memorial. (No prior insertion attempt by this user, but can confirm it having recently watched my copy.) One of the field searchers. 143.232.210.46 (talk) 21:32, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

on Monday?[edit]

This text "On 19 February 2007, the search was called off according to Mercury News,[9]" claims the search was called off on Monday, the 19th. But I can't find anything in the Mercury News article that says it was called off on Monday. In fact, the MN article says it was called off on Friday. Am I missing some part of the article, or miss-reading something? Otherwise, I'd like to fix the text to be consistent. -- Mikeblas 14:37, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Good catch. It has been corrected as per the two citations noting the search was called off. Ronbo76 15:08, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Jim Gray suicide[edit]

Why was a section of this article removed due to being "uncited"? Isn't that the purpose of the {{fact}} tag--so that information can be put in an article for someone else to reference--I don't have a source right now but I put it there so someone else could find one.142.163.220.97 16:57, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

That's not how we write biographies on Wikipedia. Sources need to come first, especially for details that promote an opinion. Anything added to the encyclopedia without a source can be removed at any time. -/- Warren 17:37, 6 June 2007 (UTC)


This is not entirely true. Many articles start with neutral statements first and sources later. However, anyone is free to remove an unsourced statement, and people are more likely to do so when the statement is unsourced and controversial. That said, I believe there has been some speculation about how Jim Gray died, and if there's any that it was a suicide, we might mention that in the article. --Zippy (talk) 09:08, 2 January 2008 (UTC)