Talk:John B. Stetson Company

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Importance

This is one of the premier hat making companies and the article should be given an opportunity to be expanded. (RossF18 04:22, 8 April 2007 (UTC))

I removed the tag after NPOV expanding and fixing accumulated untruths. The truth is that Hatco cornered the serious cowboy hat market, and now owns the formerly competing (and culturally distinct) brands Resistol and Stetson. The former always manufactured its cowboy hats in Texas, and the latter now does so in Missouri, without continuity with the original Stetson business, except for purchased rights to using the name. In light of this, giving Stetson unduo prominence over Resistol would be either ignorance or a deliberate skewing of reality. I suggest Hatco, Inc. be created and importance debated there. --Mareklug ^talk 01:09, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

I agree. However, this is an article about the John B. Stetson Company - the maker of Stetson, not Resistol. One cannot skew an article toward something the article is supposed to be about anyway. Resistol page can document all the clear advantages of Resistol over a Stetson, but an article about the company that made a Stetson has no business doing a compare and contrast between the hats, especially when you give no citations for your claims, but remove cited information. Remember, unsited information can be removed without debate. However, due to good faith and freindliness on Wikipedia, much of unsourced information is not removed. Neither is sourced information, however, even if you don't agree with it. This is an encyclopedia, not a debate page or a fan page. You don't get to extol the greatness and clear dominance of Resistol on every page remotely related to cowboy hats. That's for your blog or a fan page. This page mearly notes the facts. If you have facts as to the number of people who used the Stetson, please put that in and source it. But doing a compare and contrast between hats is for consumer reports, not a encyclopedia. If people want to compare popularity, put figures for Stetson in the Stetson article and figures for the Resistol in the Resistol article with a note in each article referencing the competition and a link to each article so that people can read both for reference, not to get a consumer report advice as to which to buy. --RossF18 (talk) 01:51, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Real History

What we have here is a master Hatter who goes prospecting in the wild west. Like Levi Strauss he made a garment out of tent material, in this case a hat. We do not know the details on the hat. He prospected for gold for a year. After selling that hat. He opened a hat shop in Philadelphia in 1865. See:[1]

The model that won the west and established a legend, later to be called a cowboy hat, looked pretty much like a flying saucer. Flat brimmed, with a straight sided rounded crown and a simple band.

These hats were sold to just about everyone from over 2800 locations all around the world. When people returned East for whatever reason. If they wanted to look the part of a successful Westerner they came home in a Stetson. This was a visual image of the mystery of the west.

All other high crowned, wide brimmed, western hats, even those made today, owe their essence to J. B. Stetson.

See: Cowboy Hats

-oo0(GoldTrader)0oo- (talk) 17:00, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Throw out source

That whole web site is suspect, anything from madehow.com/Volume-3/Stetson-Hat [2] should be throw out. What are they selling?

What molded brim on a Boss?

Are there any references to back up this phony baloney attempt at a web page at madehow.com/Volume-3/Stetson-Hat?

They must be talking about another product from another company. Maybe a fantasy from another planet. If all that can be done is copy from that site to this one, we should shut this whole page down completely.

The “Boss of the plains” Stetson hat, was the dominant cowboy hat during the period from 1865 - 1900, when cowboy hats earned a place in history. Hats became less necessity and more ornamentation around the turn of the century. Wild West shows, automobiles, airplanes, telephones and motion pictures, pushed the plain old flat brimmed cowboy hat out of the way for new fashions.

The Boss of the plains was not continuously made like it is implied here. It not only is not made now by the John B. Stetson Company but the company itself was out of the hat business in 1971. A custom hatter can make you one for about the price of an ounce of gold. But the John B. Stetson Company does not still produce the original cowboy hat.

-oo0(GoldTrader)0oo- (talk) 00:00, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

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A note on the St. Joseph, MO Factory

I am a current resident of St. Joseph and would like to point out that the actual factory closed in 2004 and currently operates purely as a factory outlet store, the article implies hats are still being manufactured here.

Article from the period about the factory's closure: https://www.semissourian.com/story/135473.html

I'm not well versed in the usage of wikipedia so I decided to put this on the talk page instead. Hope this clarification helps develop a more accurate version of the article.

38.100.179.85 (talk) 14:06, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

Actual notes from the enterprise about the present

There are no information as in other enterprice lemmas about actual CEO, Chairman and Income. The hats of Stetson are in much worldwide countries selling. That could also be written, not only in the USA. There are not only cowboy hats produced by this inc. also other types of hat! The article is weidly not complete, even fare away of that! --178.197.225.206 (talk) 10:47, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

This is correct. Stetson hats and caps are sold widely in France, where I am based.

Pwjohnson (talk) 19:40, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

Family member of Stetson by now

Who is the acutal member of the Stetson family that is leading the company now? --178.197.225.206 (talk) 10:48, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

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Hi, I'm Rachel. I was part of a History on the Web course at West Chester University during Fall 2018. As I was assigned to clean up this article, I did my best to make some changes for the sake of clarity and conciseness. Please review the changes I made and let me know how I can improve. Thank you! ArtemisOnFire (talk) 02:10, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

Places of manufactoring

The first paragraph of the article induces false information. It says "Stetson hats are now being manufactured in Garland, Texas, by Hatco, Inc., who also produce Resistol and Charlie 1 Horse hats." However, as can be seen by the products labels, at least in Europe, where it is mandatory to mention where products are made, most of Stetson hats and caps are made in China, and some in Czechia, as well as possibly other countries. Professional traders in hats met acknowledge that quality of current Stetson products are high, but social and environmental conditions of production are unknown. Stetson.eu Web site doesn't provide any information on location of its factories or social and environmental responsibility of the company.

Pwjohnson (talk) 19:45, 30 December 2022 (UTC)