Talk:John Barnes (footballer)

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Barnes's Son[edit]

User 81.99.49.164 wrote that Barnes's son is gay. Since there was no citation, and the fact that is something that someone who doesn't like Barnes might say, I removed it. I looked but can't find any information that could confirm this. If anyone else can find something, please say so. Mithras6 23:30, 15 January 2007 (UTC) What does it matter if his son is gay ? Would you inform us if he was heterosexual.... and put himself about ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.218.92.38 (talk) 23:23, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

Celtic manager/Tv Pundit[edit]

Enjoyed a brief spell as Celtic Manager,than went into tv pundit with channel 5. Big mistake John,you are the worst tv pundit of all time!!!! STICK TO THE FOOTBALL JOHN YOU WERE CLASS AT THAT!!!


Have amended the "player-manager of Celtic" part to simply "manager" as Barnes had retired as a player when he took the reins at Parkhead. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cauld1 (talkcontribs) 01:38, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Goals total[edit]

The text states a career goal total of 562 - where did this figure come from? Does not tally with the apps/goals table.

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This article was automatically assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 17:38, 27 August 2007 (UTC)


Nickname[edit]

It is implied that the nickname "Digger" was given to him first at Liverpool; in fact it was in common use on the terraces at Watford prior to his transfer to Liverpool - unsurprising, perhaps, as it was hardly imaginative at the time. Nickorando (talk) 13:45, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

If so, can this be taken out? Also, its not clear at the moment - were all Liverpool players named after Dallas characters? Or did they all just have nicknames - if so, surely that's not really specific to Anfield? Gamesh (Gil) (talk) 20:12, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

England Caps[edit]

The article says that with 71 caps, he was "then" the most capped black English footballer. Has any other black player now been awarded a higher number of caps? Millbanks (talk) 16:09, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

cashley cole. 81.96.246.118 (talk) 16:56, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism[edit]

This article was linked from forums such as wsc.co.uk recently, which prompted vandalism. Suggesting locking it for a while. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.107.0.71 (talk) 20:06, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Quality[edit]

There seem to be some issues with the quality of this article. A lot of it could be more clearly expressed; I've tried to tidy it up a bit (hope that's ok) but feel it still needs some work. The 1st sentence (Barnes "is a Jamaican-born English football manager, rap artist and former player") seems like a misleading description. I'd suggest "is a Jamaican-born former English football player who played between 1981 and 2000, notably for Watford, Liverpool and England. He has also had stints in football managment and coaching, and as a rap artist". Gamesh (Gil) (talk) 20:10, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

I very much agree with the general thrust of what you are saying. As a general comment, I would say that the article needs a huge amount of work and is suffering from multiple problems. I have removed the reference to "rap artist" in the lead – which was completely inappropriate and, as you say, misleading. Jprw (talk) 14:08, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, that's much more like it. I agree the article still needs work; he was a great player (for England at the time anyway) and that's not coming across. He deserves better, but I'm not really qualified for that. Gamesh (Gil) (talk) 20:59, 28 March 2012 (UTC)