Talk:John Foxx

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Facts[edit]

this article would do better to concentrate on facts and leave out the subjective & florid pontifications on the meaning of Foxx's lyrics! --feline1 15:07, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I have cut this to shreds as it was a complete shambles. BScotland

citations &c[edit]

There are several CD's of interviews with John Foxx about his music career. Some of the info in this Wikipedia article comes from those interviews, but since they haven't been transcribed (and if they were it would probably be illegal to publish them on the Web) how can proper citations be provided?? 82.46.181.249 (talk) 17:36, 4 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know if Wikipedia has a standard guideline for referring to sources that are not in written format. I have been looking for one for some time but if there is a guideline, it's lost amougst all the useless stuff. I'd presume the correct way of referencing would be to provide details of the source used (name of the release, release date if known, publisher/record company, catalogue number, name of the interviewer if known) in a style similar to what you'd do if referring to a book. The point of citations is after all that a reader can—if he or she wants to—verify the information. Therefore a citation should include the information needed to find the relevant release. For instance, I'd cite the interview disc that accompanied Sideways something like this:
  • Sideways CD2: Interview with John Foxx About the Album From Trash. Metamatic Records 2006. META13CD.
That should give enough information for anyone interested in looking up the CD. As an unrelated side note, new conversations should be added to the bottom of the talk page, not the top. — Kjet (talk · contribs) 20:59, 4 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The latter Ultravox[edit]

The second paragraph of the Departure from Ultravox section probably goes too much into the post-Foxx Ultravox. This material should be in the Ultravox article, if it isn't already. 207.172.87.49 05:34, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Shifting City and Cathedral Oceans release dates[edit]

I've been delving into information about Shifting City in order to add an article about the album, but stumbled on an interesting dilemma: there does not seem to be a certainty on when the album was released. This article lists its release date as 1997 (the same date of course going for Cathedral Oceans), as does Foxx's official website. Yet in both the Shifting City & Cathedral Oceans CD's they're marked as copyright (and whatever that P symbol stands for) 1995 Metamatic Records. The Discogs discography lists both as being released in 1995, while Allmusic quotes 1995 in the review but 1997 in the release details. So what? When? Huh? — Kjet (talk · contribs) 13:02, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If it can help: Politikens Store Rockleksikon (2004, in Danish), which is usually a reliable source, lists the release date for both albums as March 1997. – IbLeo (talk) 19:56, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The albums were released in 1997. I'd been waiting for them for some time; I believe they were recorded in 1995. I don't know what caused the delay. 82.46.181.249 (talk) 17:30, 4 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Metamatic Records[edit]

Any reason why the Metamatic Records article has been redirected to the John Foxx article? Metamatic Records also has the artist Louis Gordon. I feel the record label with the releases should have a seperate article.--Electronic Music (talk) 16:09, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Just checked other articles that link to the Metamatic Records article, and they all lead to the John Foxx article (which is not Metamatic Records).--Electronic Music (talk) 16:13, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Birth date[edit]

I began to trust the astrology web date.
1. In an October 2008 interview, he declared his age, 61. (put in the References section)
2. In the 1977 swedish interview, i think he said "30" "almost", and it was (i think) in prior to the release of the Ha! Ha! Ha! album (October 1977). He was talking about Eno, in other words about the Ultravox! debut album. (put in the References section)
3. The astrology page, indicated other true birthdates, like of Pete Shelley, Midge Ure and Gary Numan.
4. In his youth he was a mod and a hippy (according to the The Golden Section Tour + The Omnidelic Exotour booklet). In 1947 Marc Bolan (another from-mod-to-hippie guy) also was born.

Sure 100% (or 99.9999....%). Francodamned (talk) 22:58, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Allmusic, one of the more reliable sources for music related information, also lists his date of birth as 26 September 1947. Wikipedia needs a raft of similar third party, reliable sources to the contrary, before any alternative should be posted on this article. I am certain 1948 (or more recent) are 'show business ages'.
Derek R Bullamore (talk) 14:22, 28 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Allmusic listed the date shortly after I wrote it here, I remember. Before that, only that astrology page contained it. An interesting link is [1], whose second article is a german interview about the band in their first line-up, being 1977 or 1978 (because first guitarist Steve Shears was with them), and lists each member's age at the moment, with John being 28 at the time. Following your comment, he was 30, but no. The first 1978 tour Ultravox did outside Britain was shortly after Shears was sacked. Francodamned (talk)
If I understand you correctly, you are saying that your addition of the 1947 date to this article is what (presumably) caused Allmusic to publish it. Do you have a concrete source that supports 1948 as his birth year? It seems as if you have deduced it after reading an article. If so, that would be original research, and not allowed, especially for biographies of living persons. Perhaps we can find an unambiguous source. - MrX 13:41, 9 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
In fact, there are two articles: [2] and [3]. But Foxx wasn't 30 or very close to his 30th birthday at the moment of the circa late '77/early '78 german interview.
I see his birth year on the blog, but which of the articles at ultravox.npage.de references his age? There are quite a few articles and they're not searchable. I think we should add citations to the article so that another editor doesn't change it back to the 1947 date. - MrX 01:08, 10 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Which's the article in the german site? It's the second one. However, the photo doesn't indicate the name of the newspaper or magazine where it was published.Francodamned (talk) 02:49, 10 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. It seems like 1948 is the most reliable information that we have now. Now if we could just get a photo for the article. - MrX 11:44, 10 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Foxx was born in 1947, as stated in the Metamatic company records[1] so I'm going to correct this on the page. Dadge (talk) 16:30, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Someone has scanned the birth records which show 1948 is the correct year. I'm glad this has finally been cleared up! Dadge (talk) 18:56, 19 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/OC346968/officers

Quality of article[edit]

I have removed 2,000+ bytes worth of unsourced, opinionated text out of the article, and tidied up formatting, information flow and regularised the referencing format. It is still short of a decent article. The external links section needs a reappraisal, the discography is way too detailed and therefore almost unreadable, and there are a number of paragraphs without any references. Be bold by all means, but please do not add your own opinion and/or elements of fancruft/trivia/hearsay.

Verifiable sources from third parties are also still in the minority of the overall reference count.

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 14:44, 28 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You have my support. I may take a stab at putting the discography into a sortable table when I have a chance. - MrX 14:57, 28 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you - every little bit helps. - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 15:02, 28 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Missing 'Burning Car'[edit]

This article does not mention Burning Car, a 1980 Foxx release that already has a Wikipedia article. I'm not knowledgeable enough on JF to add it in the correct place in this article.ToaneeM (talk) 12:00, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I am not a Foxx fan, but statistically speaking "Burning Car" was one of five single releases by him in 1980, four of which (including "Burning Car") were minor hits in the UK Singles Chart. In a lengthy career such as his, it is not normal to list every single release in a Wiki mainstream article; although it is correctly included in the John Foxx discography. If someone chooses to place it in the main text, I am not going to argue, but on face value it hardly seems more noteworthy than the other singles issued that year.
Derek R Bullamore (talk) 22:26, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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