Talk:John Gruber

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NPOV[edit]

"His blog often seeks to refute criticism of Steve Jobs, Apple, and its products." clearly is personal opinion. I removed it. 80.108.92.34 13:31, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Actually it's not untrue at all. Gruber himself describes himself as "the fanboys' fanboy". His entire raison d'etre is - to use his own words - to be a "Mac snob". And whilst he is sometimes critical of Apple he will most often use underhanded logic to make Apple come up smelling like a rose. This speaks not only for Gruber but for his following and is an important sociological observation. To remove such a sentence without attempting to paraphrase it better is to do something unbecoming of Wikipedia. Note as well the sentence says "often" and not "exclusively". Thus your stating this was a personal opinion is ironically the only personal opinion in this context. The sentence should be paraphrased and restored ASAP. 86.207.164.241
For subjective or synthesis statements, it's a good idea to find a citation or some kind of evidence before adding them to the article. Dreamyshade (talk) 16:51, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
I have not met this guy, but the article seems very biased and opinion based, not up to the usual standards of wikipedia —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.47.22.84 (talk) 11:04, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Hello 200.47.22.84 - I wonder if your concerns are mostly about this paragraph, which was added recently and which I just removed:

Entries on the Daring Fireball blog are noted for their length and verbosity (as well as their injudicious use of quoting). Whilst some people – most notably from the so-called "fan boy" community – laud this style as being indicative of his depth of knowledge regarding the Mac platform, others are less sure of his position to make comment [1]. This scepticism is backed up by the fact that John Gruber has no software to his name aside from a handful of AppleScripts.

There may be a grain of truth in there somewhere, but the supporting citation is a opinion post, not a reliable source, so it doesn't belong in the article. Dreamyshade (talk) 18:33, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Is this guy notable enough to have a Wikipedia page?[edit]

I don't see any indication that he has done anything that millions of other people have: He writes a blog and gives talks. What reason is there for keeping this page? Aardvark92 (talk) 20:34, 18 April 2014 (UTC)