Talk:John Heartfield

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I have removed what might be considered "weasel words" from article, although as a close family member of the artist, I am aware of his thoughts and beliefs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HeartfieldGrandson (talkcontribs) 23:56, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

I am confused by the COI now appearing at the top of the John Heartfield Wikipedia Page. It is true that I'm his grandson. It is also true that I've served as a professor at New York University and have written about my grandfather for The Encyclopedia of German American Relations, an academic publication. I found the original John Heartfield Page to be scarce and, in some areas, inaccurate. I attempted to add clear, accurate, and unbiased information that is generally accepted by art historians who have studied Heartfield. I will continue to add to the Wikipedia Page, limiting my additions to finite dates, facts, and events. John Joseph Heartfield

Hi. I have corrected some grammatical errors in the article. I wish that the part about his life can be made in "timeline" which might be much easier to see. --Nancyinthehouse (talk) 18:12, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

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Musical references[edit]

Heartfield's Self Portrait is on the cover of Readymades (2002) by Chumbawamba and one of his works is used on System of a Down's eponymous debut (1998).

His art is also referenced quite frequently by Slovenian group Laibach ( I think they also did a song called Herzfeld ) Also the Prodigy had something similar to that "Iron has always made a nation strong, butter and lard have only made the people fat." quote in their "Fat Of The Land" album..though I don't know if this would be referencing Heartfield or Goering (which would have been a more recognisable figure?) 213.202.164.43 20:44, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

"Guns will make us strong, butter will only make us fat." - Quoted from Hermann Göring. :bloodofox: 06:06, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
Should the musical references be in the main body of the article? If someone wants info on John Hearfield, do they really care about Siouxie and the Banshees? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.97.110.64 (talk) 04:45, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Unlikely, not in main body, but such info could be justified in making up a section called Influences in modern culture or something. MURGH disc. 11:17, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Cabbage Head is also used as the cover of (the first print of) Front Line Assembly's Total Terror I (Image). ~AHadley 10:03, 7 February 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by A - J - Hadley (talkcontribs)

Name[edit]

The name "Helmut Herzfeld" is not correct - his real name is: "Wieland Herzfelde".

THE STATEMENT ABOVE IS INCORRECT. "Helmut Herzfeld" changed his name to "John Heartfield" His brother, "Wieland Herzfeld" changed his name to "Wieland Herzfelde" (see below)

Source? John Heartfield's paternal grandson, John Joseph Heartfield HeartfieldGrandson (talk) 20:28, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
Source? The authoritative Union List of Artist Names makes no mention of "Wieland", only variations of "Helmut" and "Helmuth" (citing Yale Dictionary of Art and Artists and the Grove Dictionary of Art). The Library of Congress Authorities site also has "Herzfeld, Helmut". Pinkville 16:11, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
To clarify this (albeit older) statement: Wieland Herzfelde (born Herzfeld) is not the same person, but John Heartfield's younger

brother. 90.135.114.73 (talk) 07:45, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Library of congress cataloguing uses the author or artist's real name; Wikipedia policy is to use the name a person is commonly known by. e.g. Mark Twain, not Samuel Clemens. -Dhodges (talk) 19:30, 13 January 2011 (UTC)


images[edit]

Can we please find an image of him that we can include in this article? Kingturtle (talk) 20:37, 24 February 2009 (UTC) Much more--could we have more images of his work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.1.137.152 (talk) 17:56, 25 May 2012 (UTC)


I have images of JH,family members, collegues and his work all published in my copy of Herzfelde, Wieland. "John Heartfield, Leben und Werk, Dargestellt von seinem Bruder". VEB VERLAG DER KUNST. DRESDEN. I am new to this computer stuff and uncertain as to how to add material here as well as the question of the propriety of it's reproduction, though i have used it liberally for my own personal purposes (consistently i believe with JH's political positions) in social media. Advise, and if possible and proper i will add. RedLawrie.

Legacy[edit]

I propose changing the "homages" section to "Legacy" and including more information about John J. Heartfield's digital archive, which currently receives only a slightly confusing external link. The archive is rather more important than a few shout-outs and name-checks in pop music. There's an interview with the younger Heartfield at http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2012/09/hear-s11.html, which can provide additional details on his perspective in setting up the archive. --Nixin06 (talk) 13:02, 15 April 2013 (UTC)