Talk:John Simm

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Oasis childrens' TV[edit]

I seem to remember John playing character called Posh Robert (?) who's DAD was trying to shut a play area. He was a runaway who helped the kids in court against his father. I think It was called Oasis(?) but it was well before any of these mentioned. Does any body else?? 217.45.248.97 14:46, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Yes, John Simm was 'Posh Robert' on CITV's "Oasis".

He had run away from his school after a fight (which he had assumed had resulted in the other boy's serious injury). He was hiding out in the city farm called 'Oasis'.

When the farm is eventually saved (with the help of Skates - a fellow 'posh' girl, who provides 'Robert' love interest) Robert is given a job there. And of course, as it turns out, the other boy in the fight was not seriously hurt and the ploice are not after him.

Posh Robert was asthmatic.

This role is never mentioned anywhere in John Simm's CV.

It was a really good performance and one that I remember very well. When I saw him in 'The Lakes' I thought: "It's Posh Robert"!

Famous role[edit]

I would question whether Simm's appearance in 24 Hour Party People is his "most famous role", unless it's taken to mean "the most famous person he's ever played". Nowadays, everyone knows him as "the bloke from Life On Mars". 217.155.20.163 16:56, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

I agree. I've never heard of "24 Hour Party People", but Life On Mars has been a big hit and Sam Tyler is probably Simm's most famous role.
24 Hour Party People is a film about the Madchester (e. g. Stone Roses, Joy Division) scene starring Steve Coogan and Sean Harris. --Knucmo2 20:55, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Does John have an official website?[edit]

I have searched and there doesn't seem to be a webpage for him, is there any links that I may have missed?? If there is please can you add them to his article.... many thanks

Spaced?[edit]

Was John Simm really in Spaced becaused i've got both box-sets and cant see him.--Wiggstar69 10:26, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Season 2 episode 1, he's the backpacker & drug dealer who swipes Jessica Stevenson's camera.

In the internet movie database John Simm is listed as playing the character "Stephen Edwards" in the episode 'Back' of time series Spaced.

=I would love to see a lot more pictures of John Simm, I cant get enough of him.....Debbie Does anyone else think a picture of DI Sam Tyler would be more appropriate seeing as that is by far the role he is most famous for. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.32.28.134 (talk) 18:47, 10 April 2007 (UTC).

I agree, especially considering the spoiler quality of showing 'Mr.Saxon' without warning. Has anybody got a Life On Mars picture they can supply? 90.240.12.88 00:01, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
A Google search for "Sam Tyler" returns plenty of suitable images. However I am unfamiliar with the copyright issues. The dark nerd 11:29, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
No fair use image should be used, only free use ones. Gran2 15:15, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Somebody with some expertise in this area might want to contact the owner of this image[1] on flickr to see if she will release it under an appropriate licence. That ought to stop FU images being repeatedly added to the infobox. WindsorFan 15:57, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

I would, but the uploader hasn't added another photo since last year, so I don't they would ever change the license as they would never use their account again. Gran2 21:21, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Infobox[edit]

If you see tha the infobox has been changed from an actor one, please revert it back, John is an actor and so an actor infobox should be used. Also, any fair use image in the infobox should be removed. Gran2 07:04, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Semi-protection request[edit]

I've listed this page at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection as this page has become a repeated target for vandalism over the last month. WindsorFan 18:07, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Protection[edit]

Why has this article been fully protected? There doesn't seem to be any major dispute going on. ShaleZero 16:29, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

There isn't, it was just some random IP deciding to change the infobox and add a fair use image repeatedly. We requested semi, they gave us full. Ah well. Gran2 18:53, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Regeneration screenshot[edit]

Looking closely at that picture, I don't think it looks like John Simm, but Derek Jacobi, and if I recall the episode correctly it's too early in the sequence to be Simm. As a depiction of the Master's regeneration it's fine, but someone else should have a close look to decide which actor is in that specific screengrab. MartinMcCann 10:49, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

  • It's (mostly) Jacobi. We don't see Simm's face properly until after the Master's mouth begins to gape (presumably due to the agony of the change). Mark H Wilkinson 10:55, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
Replaced. Will (talk) 15:31, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

"Stanislavski School of method acting."[edit]

This article currently says Simm studied the "Stanislavski School of method acting." This strikes me as strange because pure Stanislavski style acting and "method" acting are two different things. The "method", if I'm not mistaken was created by students of Stanislavski...so while they share some basic principles, they are different things. Anyway, does anyone have a reference for this fact? 66.222.122.69

I've added a citation request to the relevant point in the article. Mark H Wilkinson 08:36, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Master with laser screwdriver picture[edit]

I can't help but think that this picture is not really ideal. It is more of a picture of the Master than John Simm. Can someone get a better picture? NFreak007 12:17, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

11th Doctor rumour[edit]

The note about Simm getting the role of the 11th Doctor Who after David Tennent has been deleted - why? 20:34, 11th November 2007 (GMT) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.106.108.72 (talk)

It has been removed because of the source - the News of the World is a thoroughly unreliable tabloid, and thus the text doesn't even warrant a "rumour" mention. --Ckatzchatspy 01:59, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
It's also proved to be false http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/cult/a79627/simm-to-replace-tennant-in-doctor-who.html -- Halo2 Talk 18:27, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
It is false, John Simm was only seen on the set of the show, which could mean anything, and personally I think The Master is back. mickyfitz13 Talk 18:48, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Somehow, I couldn't see the Doctor regenerating into a clone of The Master... mattbuck 18:58, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

The Bill[edit]

Can anyone confirm that claim of Simm having been in The Bill as "a psycho"? Of course, it not being on IMDB doesn't mean it didn't happen, but I'd love to know which ep that was. Snowgrouse (talk) 16:51, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

ETA: Ah, apparently it exists: http://www.tv.com/the-bill/blind-spot/episode/83978/summary.htmlSnowgrouse (talk) 17:22, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

John Simm returning to Doctor Who in the 2009 Specials[edit]

"Episode 18" - This website has already been stated to me as an unreliable source by [User:Magnius]. I have to disagree with that. The visual resources on this page are more realiable than any other website I have found. It is very clear that John Simm has been spotted during the filming of Doctor Who's specials. Whoever has put this site together has got sources far closer than most on Wikipedia, so I cannot understand why this is being disputed. - Clackson101 (talk) 18:58, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

It's a self-published source and therefore not reliable. Just because it's a photograph doesn't mean it actually shows what they claim it shows. Unless a reputable, professionally published source, is prepared to publish, we can't use it. As it happens, we do have some sources that meet WP:RS, which are now in this article. Personally, I think there's no need to rush to get information into articles. This is an encyclopedia, not a news site. Maccy69 (talk) 22:40, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Not necessarily true, yes it is a self-published source but in certain circumstance, these sources can be acceptable. I think this information is needed in this article, you say it is not a news site, I know this but it does feature a lot of sources from news sites so a lot of material is extracted from news. There is also a lot of articles based on or involving information about future events, etc. Now I understand also that Wiki is not a crystal ball, but this is inrefutable evidence that John Simm is returning to the show. Is the real reason it is not being included due to the fact that it could be a potential spoiler to the programme. -Clackson101 (talk) 17:51, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

That was not a circumstance in which a self-published source is acceptable. As I said, above, the point is now moot because we do now have reliable sources for his appearance. To quote the article: In 2007, Simm was chosen by Russell T Davies to play the Master, the nemesis of The Doctor in the long-running BBC series Doctor Who. He appeared in the final three episodes of series three: "Utopia", "The Sound of Drums" and "Last of the Time Lords". He will also be appearing in a two-part special, showing over Christmas 2009,[6][7] although his exact role has not been confirmed.[8] Nothing to do with spoilers, everything to do with reliable sources. Maccy69 (talk) 18:03, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

The two sources are both equally viable, you just wanted to stamp it in Wikipedia yourself, which is very pathetic. - Clackson101 (talk) 16:48, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Nonsense. And a personal attack to boot. Please apologise. Look at the history: I didn't revert any of your changes, but three separate editors did. The consensus of those editors is clearly that your source was not suitable. All I've done is try to explain why that is, and I don't appreciate being attacked for it. Furthermore, all I did was copy the source from 2009 Christmas specials (Doctor Who) - a very minor contribution. No individual's contribution is noticeable by the general reader, so why you think this has something to do with ego completely escapes me. Maccy69 (talk) 17:00, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Your claim of a personal attack is laughable. I will not apologise as I think as I know that I have done nothing wrong. This has simply been a case that you have not liked the legitimate sources that I have used in this article and removed them and replaced them with your own. It is an ego-complex and being sensible and mature I intend not to pursue any changes to that revision you have made. I'd appreciate not being falsely accused in future. -- Clackson101 (talk) 19:39, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

"Is very pathetic" is a personal attack as is "it is an ego-complex". Do you stand by those statements? Actually, I'm not that bothered by it, but your attitude and phrasing isn't going to help when working with other editors, so it might be worth thinking about. To make things clear, for the last time, I didn't remove any of your edits - that was done by other editors, not me. All I did was copy the well sourced additions from another article 2009 Christmas specials (Doctor Who) (again, done for that article by a different editor, not me) to this article. At the time I did this, there was no reference to Simm's upcoming appearance in Doctor Who because three separate editors, all of whom are not me, had reverted your changes. I added the source and then added this page to my watch list. It was then I saw your original message and took the time to explain why your source doesn't meet WP:V and to point out that his appearance has been sourced now anyway. For some reason you've taken this to mean that I am on some sort of ego trip to replace your source with mine. That's simply not the case: it's not my source (another editor found it); and it's the opinions of other editors that lead to your additions being removed in the first place. Please stop giving me motivations I don't have. Anyway, that's it from me and I'm glad you're not edit-warring over this. I will say, though, that if you use that blog as a source again it's extremely likely to be reverted (I'll leave well alone, but others won't). If you want to argue it's an exception to WP:SPS then I suggest you make your case at WP:RSN first. Maccy69 (talk) 20:48, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Photo[edit]

Erm... not sure if it's a troll, but we could use an article photo with less of a hostile fake smile. Unless whoever edited that in is on a mission to preach the "John is a grumpy git" thing, which is not particularily NPOV. Or is this one of those instances where some fans can't recognise an expression like that and just think it's cute? Now that he's done a convention, you'd think we'd have more pics of him looking neutral or smiling. The previous photo wasn't that great with the shades and all, but at least he wasn't giving a "f*** off" look to the camera. I've reverted back to the previous one.--Snowgrouse (talk) 08:52, 10 July 2012 (UTC)