Talk:Jon Jones (fighter)

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The Youngest??[edit]

Wasn't Dan Lauzon only 18 when he signed?

I think they mean currently the youngest, not necessarily the youngest-ever signed. I can't think of (or find in my research) any UFC fighters younger than 21. --jhanCRUSH 05:02, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
During the UFC 94 broadcast, Joe Rogan mentioned 2 UFC fighters younger than him, so I changed the wording. --jhanCRUSH 02:41, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Brothers[edit]

This article is supposed to be about the fighter, not his brothers. Am I wrong to call for a removal of details about Jones'jonathan jones is alson his brother

brothers collegiate football careers? 75.69.152.83 (talk) 00:51, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Family is often included in biographies, and I, for one, find these details to be quite interesting and a testament to the Jones' genes and what we call 'athletic ability'.70.167.34.186 (talk) 22:12, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

I am also want to know why the article does not mention his collegate wreatliing career? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.175.133.198 (talk) 19:02, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Do not delete[edit]

His brother Chandler Jones is a defensive lineman for the New England Patriots his number is 95.

Despite completely dominating the fight, Jones was controversially[1] disqualified for the use of an illegal elbow


It has been justified by the UFC commentators ( of that night ) and numerous MMA sites ( including Sherdog ) that Jon Jones completely dominated Matt Hamill. For the controversially part... The fight was thought to be a victory for Jon Jones before they announced the final decision, plus ther are some arguments that state that the referee should of stop the fight before the illegal elbows had been dealt.

Therefore these two elements are important to give a clear understanding of wat happen in the fight. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GSP-Rush (talkcontribs) 06:51, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Controversial or not that goes into the description of the fight, not the posting of the fight result. You dont see controversial stoppages listed as "controversial TKO". It's the athletic comissions official result. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.62.144.145 (talk) 07:03, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

That fine. I put that at the beginning and went it was corrected i didn't touch it again. I was talking about this phrase : Despite completely dominating the fight, Jones was controversially[2] disqualified for the use of an illegal elbow. It prove that Jon Jones was winning but he did an illegal move and that happen in the fight. If someone were to remove this then people reading it would think Jones just lost because of some random illegal elbow. Witch doesn't give the full picture of the fight. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GSP-Rush (talkcontribs) 06:51, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

That's because people are too lazy to do it. Fight descriptions are encyclopedic. Paralympiakos (talk) 12:32, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Regarding his record[edit]

His offical MMA record is 11-1, not 12-0. The fight with Hamill was a LOSS. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wanderlei266 (talkcontribs) 01:29, 4 October 2010 (UTC)


Jake O'Brien fight[edit]

Power guillotine choke?? Really? wow. It was a normal guillotine. slightly modified. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.74.0.107 (talk) 02:54, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

BCX 5 fight[edit]

I am curious about Jones's BCX 5 fight on his record. It says that he won the US Kickboxing Association Light Heavyweight Championship during this fight. Does this mean this was a kick boxing match and NOT an MMA match? If so, then there is no reason to include it in his MMA record. However, including that fight makes his record 12-1 which does sound correct. If so, then my question is, how did he win a Kickboxing championship in an MMA fight?

Something isn't adding up here. I suspect the Kickboxing championship is in error, but since there is no reference associated with it, I can't confirm or deny this. Plus, my internet doesn't work here at my job save for allowing me to visit Wikipedia (don't ask me why). I'm going to add a "reference needed" tag to the kickboxing championship claim in the notes until otherwise corrected. Dachknanddarice (TC) 16:13, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Since no one seems to care wether this is legit or not, I'm just going to remove it. Dachknanddarice (TC) 22:00, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
I have a video of this fight, and they clearly award him the belt after winning that fight and it's acronym certainly suggests that it is from a kick boxing association. It was an MMA fight, and my guess is it's just one of those crossover moments where a kickboxing association, in conjunction with BCX awarded an MMA belt. Unfortunately it's not really explained in the video, and I'm sure there isn't much in the way of press about the fight, but it is official.Thaddeus Venture (talk) 16:31, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
It's up to you if you want to add it, but like you mentioned to me on my user talk page, I don't know if a video of them giving him the belt + no explanation as to what that belt really represents is enough to be used as a source for this. It's confusing to say the least, and he's never ever talked about that belt or defended it, so I'm still contesting that it shouldn't be included on his record. However, I will refrain from removing this information should it make it's way back on his record. I suppose maybe we should contest it's validity and not wether it happened or not then? Dachknanddarice (TC) 19:17, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
I was able to reference it from an old MMA Junkie article from prior to his first UFC fight. They talked about him as the USKBA champion, so it's a legit title, just a kind of pointless one. It should be made note of, because it's an important point in his pre-UFC career, but beyond that it doesn't need to be a major point. Thaddeus Venture (talk) 21:14, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
  • I hate to bring this up, because it's really a stupid nickname, but in this same BCX fight he was introduced as Jon "Bones" "Sexual Chocolate" Jones, so that probably should be added to his other name's he's gone by.Thaddeus Venture (talk) 16:35, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
  • God, please no. He is not known as 'Sexual Chocolate' and I think having some announcer mention it once shouldn't be notable enough to include it as a real nickname. Dachknanddarice (TC) 19:17, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
Alright I just thought I'd throw it out there since he used it at least once, to see what other people thought, I agree though and I certainly wouldn't start a fight about it.Thaddeus Venture (talk) 21:10, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

Reference 29 link[edit]

Reference 29 link needs to be changed to: http://www.brobible.com/story/jon-bones-jones-chases-robber —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.60.210.235 (talk) 07:48, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Austinbatista, 20 March 2011[edit]

Jon Jones is not the youngest Ufc champion in history at 23 years old. Vitor Belfort is the youngest Ufc champion in history at 19 years old Vitor won the Ufc 12 Heavyweight tournament on February 7 1997 to become the youngest champion at 19 years old. http://www.vitorbelfort.com/the-phenom/the-athlete/ This tells he won the Ufc 12 Tournament , http://www.vitorbelfort.com/factsheet/ This show's his birthdate as 4/1/1977 , http://www.ufc.com/event/UFC-12-Judgement-Day This shows Ufc 12 was on 2/7/1997 , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitor_Belfort and finally this article shows his age the tournament and what year it was. Back then who won the tournaments was the champion and held the belt if you need anymore info I will look it up . Austinbatista (talk) 23:35, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — Bility (talk) 00:19, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

Belfort is the youngest one night tournament winner, but Josh Barnett had been the youngest title holder (at 24yrs.) in the sense of a division with a champion who defends his belt.--Phospheros (talk) 12:34, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

You can participate in a tournament and the next one you don't have to. You cannot defend a tournament. That is what Belfort won. Jon Jones is the youngest fighter to win a UFC Championship belt. Prior to him it was Josh Barnett.Solidmemory (talk) 00:14, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Time for a class upgrade?[edit]

I've noticed Phospheros has been adding a few citations and references to this article and it got me wondering if maybe this article is ready for a class upgrade to C-class or even maybe B-class. I'd love for some other people to give this article a read and maybe we can go about getting this article upgraded? Not sure if going from Start-class to C or B class means we need a consensus or need to file it for review, but either way, what does everyone think? Dachknanddarice (TC) 20:49, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

If you believe that the article has accomplished the criteria described here, you can reassess the article yourself. Once it is about to go to good article status, a peer review process will be needed, but for C or B class any editor that feels that the article has achieved the standards established in the guideline above can upgrade an article status. Personally, I do not like to assess articles, but perhaps another editor at WT:MMA might be interested in evaluating this one if you don't want to. I would say that the current state of this article passes the C quality without problems. I see some issues that need to be addressed before achieving B class, but I may be too picky with the criteria. Jfgslo (talk) 22:29, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
Thanks Jfgslo. I've had a chance to read through the Jon Jones article and the guidelines for C-class and B-class articles and agree with you. I don't believe this article is quite ready for B-class, but I've gone ahead and changed it to C-class as I do believe it meets those requirements. If anyone feels it does not meet these requirements, please discuss it here. Dachknanddarice (TC) 20:13, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Get a new picture.[edit]

Seriously, you can't even see what he looks like. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.59.126.203 (talk) 05:17, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

If you can find a better image that has a free licence or is in the public domain, then its addition would be most welcome. Wikipedia has a very strict image use policy. —LOL T/C 23:52, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Jonathan Dwight Jones[edit]

Here are the references for his middle name from his official twitter account.

http://twitter.com/#!/Jonnybones/status/101026342312751104

http://twitter.com/#!/JorelTheGreat/status/101027401328361473

http://twitter.com/#!/Jonnybones/status/101027726756028416 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.195.163.108 (talk) 05:23, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

TKO (liver blow)[edit]

the finishing blows when he fought Shogun weren't (punches and knees) !!

it was one liver shot and Shogun tapped (but the ref. pushed jones off before the tap)

so should i change it to TKO (liver-shot) ?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.184.163.196 (talk) 14:17, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

No, Project MMA uses Sherdog for records.--Phospheros (talk) 11:52, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
i'm sorry but it was clearly a single liver shot and Dean pushed jone away — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.184.235.240 (talk) 10:42, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
Per Wikipedia:Verifiability: "The threshold for inclusion of information in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth – whether readers can check that it has already been published by a reliable source, not whether editors think it is true.", also falls under Wikipedia:No original research.

Sexual Chocolate[edit]

He is also known as "Sexual Chocolate"... PROOF — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.143.147.85 (talk) 13:53, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

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I've a question. Did Jon Jones learn Taekwondo? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.48.156.207 (talk) 12:18, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

"Bones" is NOT his real name[edit]

I can't believe I'm even typing this but someone keeps editing his full name to Jonathan Dwight "Bones" Jones when clearly "Bones" is a nickname (a nickname he earned in high school for his lanky physique). His full name is Jonathan Dwight Jones, please don't change this.Asphyx1 (talk) 02:33, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

There's a section reserved for nicknames under "Other names" and that's the appropriate place to refer to the "Bones" moniker. Asphyx1 (talk) 02:37, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Not the longest reach in UFC history...[edit]

"He also has the longest reach in UFC history at 84.5 in." Semmy Schilt have a 88 inch (224 cm) reach according to his profil on wikipedia, and he fought at UFC 31 and 32 — Preceding unsigned comment added by GatorMMA (talkcontribs) 00:29, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Question on the new picture[edit]

Who's that on Davis' shirt? --TheShadowCrow (talk) 20:56, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 24 February 2013[edit]

{{MMA record start}}
|-
| {{yes2}}Win
|align=center| 17–1
|{{flagicon|BRA}} [[Vitor Belfort]]
| Submission (americana)
| [[UFC 152]]
| {{dts|2012|September|22}}
|align=center| 4
|align=center| 0:54
| [[Toronto, Ontario]], Canada
| {{small|Defended [[UFC Light Heavyweight Championship]]; Submission of the Night.}}
|-

{{MMA record start}}
|-
| {{yes2}}Win
|align=center| 17–1
|{{flagicon|BRA}} [[Vitor Belfort]]
| Submission ([[kimura lock|kimura]])
| [[UFC 152]]
| {{dts|2012|September|22}}
|align=center| 4
|align=center| 0:54
| [[Toronto, Ontario]], Canada
| {{small|Defended [[UFC Light Heavyweight Championship]]; Submission of the Night.}}
|-
(I added <nowiki> tags for clarity) Just to clarify, do you want to change "Submission (americana)" to "Submission (kimura)"? HueSatLum 01:16, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Link to Carlos Eduardo leading to the wrong fighter[edit]

The Carlos Eduardo reached by the link in the fight records table, is the wrong Carlos Eduardo. You can check that due his weight class, Carlos Eduardo Rocha fight records and through Youtube videos.

Removed wiki link.

128.84.125.36 (talk) 01:53, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Fighter or Mixed Martial Artist?[edit]

Boxers, kickboxers, wrestlers and athletes in general have their sport listed next to their name and other industries have their professions listed such as for example "Steve Austin (dog trainer)." Why is Jones listed as a "fighter" and not a mixed martial artist? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.222.250.62 (talk) 18:27, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

High school championship record not complete[edit]

I recall watching a documentary showing Jones winning the NY state wrestling championship for his weight class, as well as said documentary providing voiceover from Jones himself commenting on his state championship. In this wiki entry there is no mention of the year as well as specific weight class he wrestled. Can someone update that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.20.203.194 (talk) 06:48, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 28 April 2013[edit]

Take out 'gruesome'. That teeters into the realm of subjectivity. 82.8.193.162 (talk) 17:49, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Done Thanks! --ElHef (Meep?) 21:28, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Comments of the Klitschkos[edit]

I added a section under Personal Life about his comments regarding the Klitschko brothers. I also added a line on Joe Rogan's rebuttal to Jones' desire to one day fight a Klitschko. I believe the references are solid (mostly MMA Mania and SBNation). I welcome any polishing that can be done to it. QOlivieri 19:43 26 September 2013 (UTC)

  1. ^ http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/blog/cagewriter/post/Jones-loses-controversial-disqualification-to-Ha?urn=mma,206949
  2. ^ http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/blog/cagewriter/post/Jones-loses-controversial-disqualification-to-Ha?urn=mma,206949