Talk:Josef Mengele

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POV ?[edit]

"Had he continued this academic focus, Mengele would likely have become a professor." is this more pov regardless as to Mengele saying it, or his biographer or the statement contributor and could better be represented as, "so-and-so said that his academic and research focus could very well have led to a professorship". The use of the camp detainees would not naturally excluded from his work in a Fascist state as the work and actions of individuals was part of the greater development of the country/people?76.170.88.72 (talk) 19:53, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

I have removed the sentence about his possible professorship. I don't understand your second question; perhaps you could re-word it. -- Diannaa (talk) 21:33, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
"Possible professorship" I'd rather view it as the speculation of the author as to someone's potential career path; even if it was the author's pov. But then if that author is an authority then the statement might have the weight to stand, or at least be the more possible than impossible for someone to consider.76.170.88.72 (talk) 23:08, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
As far as I can recall it was the opinion of the author (Kirk Allison of the University of Minnesota). I would have to get the book in on inter-library loan to be sure, so it's simpler to take it out. -- Diannaa (talk) 23:57, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

No need on my account to go through all the effort to review something that has unilaterally been eliminated. WP does not use original research but we do rely on authorities that do. If a state university professor has come to that "career tract" conclusion then that professor may very well be so proficient in the subject of the book or the subject of pre-1945 German doctorates to see a pattern that at least he is willing to put forth. That is a subject all to itself and I seriously doubt it is explored or to be found in that book. But if it is then the WP contributor should have qualified their inclusion of the statement in the WP article rather than just leave it to a citation of the immediate source to act as a means of validity. Maybe it is to be found in the German language academic literature.76.170.88.72 (talk) 01:00, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Abortionist[edit]

Why is there little to nothing about his career as an abortionist? --76.105.96.92 (talk) 18:03, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

Please provide some sources. -- Diannaa (talk) 18:14, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
Here's one. --76.105.96.92 (talk) 22:50, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. I have added some content. -- Diannaa (talk) 23:30, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

Minor correction in: Military service[edit]

There stands: "Mengele joined the Nazi Party in 1937 and the Schutzstaffel (SS protection squadron) in 1938."

I think in parenthesis should be 'NP protection squadron', or, rather, 'NSDAP protection squadron', as SS = Schutz-staffel = protection squadron. Or 'Nazi Party's protection squadron'? Or even 'SS, NSDAP protection squadron'? That SS is an abreviation what stands for 'Schutzstaffel' is not obvious for everybody and most people keep forgetting that. Well, not here, definitely, and in this article it's clear.

Sorry to disturb if that's so minor correction that no need to talk about, but thought this article might be protected or smth, so's not all and any can correct/mess up. :) BirgittaMTh (talk) 15:45, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

I just removed confusing SS from before 'protection squadron', seems ok to me this way. (Thought about changing not-official-sounding Nazi Party (after all, we do have article 'Communist Party of the Soviet Union' not 'Commie Party'; parallel is obvious) to NSDAP but then found that there's been an almighty discussion about article's name and didn't dare to revive it. Maybe I should?) Oh, and if this change (confusing abbreviation deleted) is accepted by those article-protecting entities, may I remove all this topic, section, from here? Or will you? BirgittaMTh (talk) 16:22, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
Normally we leave talk page posts in place, as a record of discussions. I changed it to read Schutzstaffel (SS; protection squadron), as the SS is well known by the abbreviation, so we need to include it. Also, the abbreviation is used further down in the article, so we need to define it.-- Diannaa (talk) 18:43, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
The current change reads better; further, the abbreviation SS should be kept as the organisation is very well known by it and the current format of presentation is in line with other examples in the article, such as: Nazi Sturmabteilung (Storm Detachment; SA). Kierzek (talk) 03:08, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Degrees?[edit]

While reading the article I was confused that he had no "MD" after his name and is not referred to as "doctor" in the text. I came here to ask about this. The archive has a comment stating that both of his doctorates were rescinded due to his actions(no citations). Yet there is nothing about this in the article. I think that is something that should be mentioned, probably in the legacy section. Ayzmo (talk) 22:50, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

We don't include honorifics, academic titles, or degrees in the prose, per the Manual of style. You can see the guideline at the bottom of this section. None of the sources I used to prepare the article for its Good Article nomination said that his degrees were rescinded. We would need a source to add it. -- Diannaa (talk) 23:08, 23 March 2015 (UTC)