Talk:Joseph Lister, 1st Baron Lister
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|To-do list for Joseph Lister, 1st Baron Lister:|
- 1 Listerine
- 2 birth
- 3 Cultural depictions of Joseph Lister, 1st Baron Lister
- 4 Accuracy of Lister getting Goodyear to make rubber gloves
- 5 Possible link to Joseph Lister's items on “Himetop – The History of medicine topographical database”
- 6 Adding reference material at WikiSource
- 7 DEAR ADMINISTRATOR
- 8 Abandonment of phenol
- 9 Lister -- and the birthday of modern medicine (doing less harm than before) in 1865
I removed reference to the Listerine mouthwash in the first paragraph, not because it's incorrect or shouldn't be mentioned, but because it appeared like it was an achievement for which he should be remember for. It's like leading an article on Einstein with a mention that the dog in "Back To The Future" was named after him, factually correct, but out of place trivia.
- I think that the information about Listerine should be re-included into the article, if only to clear up misconceptions that Lister invented it himself. Leeuwenhoek 02:55, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
What date was he born in?
joseph lister was born in 1827
I've started an approach that may apply to Wikipedia's Core Biography articles: creating a branching list page based on in popular culture information. I started that last year while I raised Joan of Arc to featured article when I created Cultural depictions of Joan of Arc, which has become a featured list. Recently I also created Cultural depictions of Alexander the Great out of material that had been deleted from the biography article. Since cultural references sometimes get deleted without discussion, I'd like to suggest this approach as a model for the editors here. Regards, Durova 18:50, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
Accuracy of Lister getting Goodyear to make rubber gloves
There is a near identical claim made on the wikipedia page for William Stewart Halstad.
I suggest that somebody, interested in this page, could insert an external link to the following page describing, with pictures, some Joseph Lister’s memories: http://himetop.wikidot.com/joseph-lister
I don’t do it myself because I’m also an Administrator of this site (Himetop) and it could be a violation of the Wikipedia Conflict of Interest policy. Thanks for your attention.
Adding reference material at WikiSource
I have started to add information for s:Author:Joseph Lister. Something of specific interest is the seminal paper s:On the Antiseptic Principle of the Practice of Surgery. More to be added. -- billinghurst (talk) 12:43, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
excuse me but you keep deleting useful information that the people want to. for example: kids doing assignments. i have added useful information and you have deleted it. 126.96.36.199 (talk) 02:55, 4 April 2009 (UTC) Thank you 188.8.131.52 (talk) 03:34, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.108.40.206 (talk) 02:39, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
Abandonment of phenol
May be worth adding something here: One of the first reports of adverse effects of chemicals on healthcare workers was the use of carbolic acid (phenol) sprays by Lister (Newsom, 2003), who stated “…as regards the spray, I feel ashamed that I should have even recommended it…”. He abandoned its use in 1889 after recognising the hazard.
Lister -- and the birthday of modern medicine (doing less harm than before) in 1865
"Lister disappears into germ theory's prehistory, and is merely 'the English disciple' of Pasteur, a role in which, it must be said, he cast himself. As a result, the nature of the first crucial meeting between science and medicine is scarcely explored and its character is systematically misunderstood. ... Lister's work is hopelessly underestimated if one takes at face value his own unduly modest suggestion that it followed straightforwardly from reading Pasteur. To make the leap that Lister made [and it may have been the biggest leap in medicine so far] you needed to be a microscopist (to have seen all the invisible creatures in the air), a bacteriologist (to understand that every operation was a bacteriological experiment), and a surgeon, accustomed to struggling with sepsis." (David Wootton, 2006: Bad Medicine -- Doctors doing harm since Hippocrates, pp. 229, 239) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.127.116.11 (talk) 19:03, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
The article seems to say that Lister heard about new research, applied the techniques, which were successful -- scientific method. That quote seems to say Lister figured it all out. This isn't to diminish Lister's work, but like Fleming's discovery of penicillin, he stood on shoulders of giants. In that article, Lister is said to have cured a patient's infection with a mold-derived "Penicillium". I'd think that book would focus on toxic dangers of phenols. 18.104.22.168 (talk) 04:48, 6 March 2012 (UTC)