Talk:Journey to the West

Style of Synopsis Section

Don't you guys think that the synopsis is way too conversational? 72.86.156.219 (talk) 07:07, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Stephen Chow To Make New Film

Yup, according to Hollywood reporter.com Stephen Chow of Chinese Odyssey, Kung Fu Hustle and CJ7 fame has got the go ahead to make a $100 million Journey To The West production in collaboration with China Film Group [CFG] and reportedly Will Smith will star. Blimey get me a cup of tea stat! Twobells (talk) 22:43, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

BBC adaption

The BBC has created an adaption (alternate link) of Journey to the West for its Olympics 2008 title animation. Their page about it contains a link to this Wikipedia article. GreenReaper (talk) 14:53, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Identity of Demon in Yellow Robe

In Journey to the West#List of demons, the "Demon in Yellow Robe" is currently identified as "wood wolf of Gui (or Andromeda)" (and Andromeda is linking to a disambiguation page).

In the freeware English translation of Journey to the West that I'm working from (Journey to the West, see page 443), the constellation that goes missing from heaven is described as "Strider, the wooden wolf". I think that relates to Kuí, or Legs (Chinese constellation), which roughly overlaps Andromeda (constellation).

Am I correct in identifying the Demon in Yellow Robe with Kuí/Legs? Or am I getting confused by the translations?

If I'm not confused by the translations, I'm inclined to change the identity of the demon to "wood wolf of Kuí (the Chinese constellation Legs)". But I thought I'd better check first. Tonyrex (talk) 23:20, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

 :) No objections, so I'll make the change. Will use the pinyin "Kuí" for the link and pipe it to Legs (Chinese constellation). Tonyrex (talk) 08:02, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Split

I'd like to split the Media adaptations section off into a separate article, List of media adaptations of Journey to the West. This is because a) the current section takes up tons of space in the article, and makes the TOC huge; and b) having its own article would allow people to do more with it. Anyway, does anyone have any thoughts?

If I don't hear any objections within a day or so, I'll probably go ahead and do the split, just because I'm antsy. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 14:48, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

No responses, so I'm going to go ahead with the split. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 03:17, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Who is the main character in the story?

Can someone tell me who the main character (i.e. the Main protagonist) is? Neo Guyver (talk) 19:30, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Isn't that obvious from the article? It's Monkey. --Gwern (contribs) 01:06 31 December 2008 (GMT)

Okay, thank you for the answer. Neo Guyver (talk) 21:42, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Esoteric interpretation

Might be worth expanding on the religious interpretations of the Journey. From Clearly's Vitality Energy and Spirit: a Taoist Sourcebook, we read:

"The last selection from Liu I-Ming's commentaries to be presented here is a set of extracts from his writings on Journey to the West, which has itself been translated into English as a 'folk novel' and does not seem to be generally recognized as an estoeric map of human development except among certain Buddhists and Taoists. Liu attributes the original work to the thirteenth-century Taoist master Ch'ang-ch'un (Changqun), one of the great disciples of Wang Che, founder of the Northern school of Complete Reality.
Secular scholars vehemently deny this attribution, claiming ti derives from confusion with another book called Journey to the West recounting Ch'ang-ch'un's expedition to Mongolia. The two works are so different, however, as to render this theory absurd. What is more likely is that scholars who believed the work to be a 'folk novel' did not understand the inner content, which treats the most complex and sophisticated forms of Buddhism and Taoism. Fr centuries the stories of Journey to the West were current as a cycle of dramas, which were ultimately rewritten into the present form of a novel by Wu Ch'eng-en (Wu Chengen) in the sixteenth century. Currently available English translations are based on the 'folk novel' theory of the work, and do not reflect sensitivity to the technical inner meanings. In a set of remarkable essays, Liu I-ming explains how the text appears to the initiate."

The extracts themselves seem to've been typed up here; at least, they're correct insofar as I've checked them against my copy. --Gwern (contribs) 19:21 20 March 2009 (GMT)

Well, I am pretty sure that the protagonist is supposed to be the priest. and i think it should be Tang Shen —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.65.196.230 (talk) 15:55, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Historical Sequels to Xiyou ji

It is probably important to mention somewhere the several important historical sequels to the Ming dynasty novel, namely: Hou Xiyou ji (Later Record of the Westward Journey), Xu Xiyou ji (Sequel to the Westward Journey), and Dong Yue's Xiyou bu (Supplement to the Westward Journey).ChinaStudent (talk) 17:28, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

I am currently writing an article for the Xiyoubu. I am close to finishing it, but I only work on it occasionally. I will add information about it to this page shortly. --Ghostexorcist (talk) 18:12, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

List of characters

I suggest that we create a page List of characters from Journey to the West for all the characters in the novel. The list of demons take up far too much space on this article so it'll be better to relocate them. We can add in all the various gods and deities on that list and make it even more complete. Isn't that better? Anyone in support of this idea? Lonelydarksky (talk) 10:07, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

This sounds like a good idea to me. I would keep the info about the main characters here, though. Bertport (talk) 13:37, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Done. Please help to work on the list. It's incomplete and has a lot of potential for improvement. Thanks. Lonelydarksky (talk) 02:56, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Do we care / does this warrant a mention?

I'm not an experienced Wikipedian, so I thought I'd offer this up rather than add it myself - comments welcome: Neil Gaiman to adapt Journey to the West for film Pitchwife (talk) 19:23, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

I'd say at this point it's only at the idea stage. Many plans do not come to fruition, many screenplays never get made into films and many films never make it out of production. Blogs are not seen as a reliable source, and even though this is Gaiman's own blog he may just have come back from the pub and knocking ideas around. Who Knows. So, I'd hold onto this for now and keep a weather eye on it. Best wishes Span (talk) 22:25, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

It's mentioned in Variety. Gaiman has been signed to write the script. --Ghostexorcist (talk) 23:16, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

So it's definitely worth mentioning in the Gaiman article but is it here? Hm... I may be a bit gunshy because the Neon Genesis Evangelion live-action movie has been sucking up space and news coverage for half a decade now without going anywhere & seems to finally be abandoned, but I'd rather see more movement than just a script before including it among all the actually completed movies & series. --Gwern (contribs) 15:48 30 March 2011 (GMT)