Talk:Juan Carlos Onganía

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If length is the problem...[edit] misspelled "long".

Best wishes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 10:45, 4 August 2008 (UTC)


1. Redundancies are in the head of the beholder. You had written the "night of the night sticks" where night might have appeared as repetitive.

2. You obviously have not been there during that night.

3. The LENGTH of the batons was a crucial point. Otherwise it wouldn't be part of the name of the event.

4. It was the first time such LONG batons were deployed and used.

5. The batons were applied on the head of the victims, the LONG batons being more efficient for the task than the SHORT batons used to control motor vehicle traffic.

6. The particular intended task was to split open the heads in order to extract the ideas contained in them.

7. Both the name given to the attack and the photos originated from a single unique reporter that was able to sneak into the building in order to witness the abuse.

8. Please, discuss further substantial edits and/or reversions in this pagte, before making the changes.

9. The original name of the event should be respected as much as possible, even if it appears redundant to some.

Jclerman (talk) 09:59, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

I agree with Mr Lerman. I was in the country at the time (not at the even mind you) but do remember it. Discuss such changes in Talk first. -- Alexf42 10:34, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Brain drain[edit]

The article writes:"Many were later forced to leave the country, touching off a "brain drain" that saddles Argentine academics, generally, to this day". The "brain drain" in Argentina began before the Ogania's government and became stronger afetr he left the power. On the book "Guerrillas and Generals" , I read about the invasions of the biggests universities of Argentina by Montoneros and ERP.Agre22 (talk) 23:36, 8 November 2009 (UTC)agre22

suggested quote[edit]

Hola! This might be useful for editors out there. In 1964 (two years before the golpe), Juan Carlos Onganía said "Es absurdo que nos sigamos preparando para entrar en la guerra del 14; es absurdo que continuemos organizando la artillería pesada ( ... ); son absurdas las fabulosas concentraciones militares listas para enviar tropas a la frontera. El principal objetivo del Ejército es, actualmente, prevenir la acción subversivo castrista”

My translation is “it is absurd that we continue preparing ourselves to enter in the last war; it is absurd that we continue organizing heavy artillery… the fabulously large military concentrations ready to go to the border are also absurd. The principal objective of the Army is, currently, to prevent Castro-style subversion.”

Source: Prudencio Garcia, El Drama de la Autonomía Militar: Argentina Bajo las Juntas Miliares (Madrid: Alianza Editorial, 1995), 38.

The quote is interesting and potentially article-worthy because it conveys the Cold War era of the post-Cuban Revolution atmosphere. It was in that context that coup d’état occurred. I'm not saying that the coup was justified; I just think it sheds light on the military's motivations, and therefore might be appropriate in the article. --Lacarids (talk) 05:18, 23 May 2012 (UTC)