Talk:Judah P. Benjamin
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Article in serious need of expansion
Benjamin was a fascinating and important figure who warrants a much fuller treatment than this article as it currently stands. The extended treatment of "alternate history" is rather overdone to say the least. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 22.214.171.124 (talk) 18:29, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
First Jewish Cabinet Member
If Benjamin was the first Jewish cabinet member in North America, I would guess it could be expanded to the Western Hemisphere, since I can't imagine a South American ountry before 1861 having a Jew in so high a position. Dynzmoar (talk) 16:49, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
John S. Harris
Please see my question in the discussion on John T. Harris. How can the Benjamin article have Benjamin "Succeeded by" Harris while the Harris article has Harris "Preceded by" "Vacant"? The explanatory note is in both places, but the bodies per se of the tables need to be consistent. I recommend a comprehensive and consistent fix for all House and Senate positions which were interrupted by the American Civil War. Richard David Ramsey 18:39, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
The New York Times recently ran an article about Benjamin's papers, which I added under References: Kahn, Eve M. (December 31, 2009). "Letters Reveal Doubts of Senator Judah Benjamin". The New York Times. Retrieved 9 January 2010. - Eastmain (talk) 22:39, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
I just spoke with an ultra orthodox Jewish man named Yehuda Philip.
I looked him up on the internet, and instead found this Yehuda Philip... Since Judah P. Benjamin was Jewish, and the son of the first reform synagogue founder, I think it would be appropriate to add his Hebrew name in parenthesis: (Hebrew: Yehuda).
All Jewish men in those days, even 'Epicurean' Jews, would be given a traditional Hebrew name, during their circumcision, as is common with many Jewish men today. When called up to the Torah, on the Sabbath day, and twice a week, on Monday or Thursday, at the daily morning prayers, only the Hebrew name is used. For those who did not have a synagogue nearby, or who did not pray regularly, the name was used again during the wedding in the Ketubah, an official document of the groom's spiritual and financial commitment to his wife, and used again in divorce - which was rare in those days, and then again during burial, when the community (Kehilla) and burial committee (Hevra Kadisha) pray for his soul and ask forgiveness.
It is probable that Philip was his "General" name and Judah (pronounced Yooda, and which is short for Yehuda) was his "Jewish" or "Hebrew" name. Perhaps someone can help find documentation for this? I hereby call out to friends.
As a side-note, I have friends who's American parents emigrated to Israel, and decided to use the Hebrew names only, giving their children funny names on their US passports. Thus they have: Just Berkowitz (when asked again, he says: Yes, Just Berkowitz), Kalman Danger Berkowitz (my middle name is Danger) and Berkowitz Berkowitz. פשוט pashute ♫ (talk) 07:42, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
- OK, Here's proof. The Jewish Virtual Library writes the tragic story of this man, and states as follows (my emphasis):
- A solitary man, estranged from his wife, Benjamin died alone in England, and his daughter arranged to have him buried in Pere Lachaise Cemetery in Paris. Until 1938, when the Paris chapter of the Daughters of the Confederacy provided an inscription with his American name, his simple tombstone was engraved with the name “Philippe Benjamin”.
- While Judah Benjamin preferred such obscurity, his prominence as a Jew assured that he would come under harsh scrutiny, both during and after his life. For example, on the floor of the Senate Ben Wade of Ohio charged Benjamin with being an “Israelite in Egyptian clothing.” With characteristic eloquence, Benjamin replied, “It is true that I am a Jew, and when my ancestors were receiving their Ten Commandments from the immediate Deity, amidst the thundering and lightnings of Mt. Sinai, the ancestors of my opponent were herding swine in the forests of Great Britain.”
- As is commonly written on some websites like the Halfbakery: nuff said. פשוט pashute ♫ (talk) 07:56, 24 February 2014 (UTC)