Talk:Judaism

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Former good article Judaism was one of the good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
Article milestones
Date Process Result
March 13, 2006 Good article nominee Listed
April 22, 2006 Featured article candidate Not promoted
July 11, 2007 Good article reassessment Delisted
Current status: Delisted good article


Oldest?[edit]

This will become a very very silly edit war along the lines of "I'm the oldest" "no you're not". Two points, whether or not Judaism is the oldest continuing monotheistic faith is arguable. That depends on when with think it became monotheistic, which is much discussed, since it can be and has been argued that early Judaism is henotheistic ("no other gods before me"). However, we cannot say it is the oldest, in the sense of earliest, monotheism for several reasons. There are many ancient religions, most famously Atenism, that are generally identified as monotheistic, and many that may have been, the antiquity of which is not known (eg, Zalmoxis). Of course Zoroastrianism is also generally identified as Monotheistic, and the antiquity of that, and of Mazdaism in general, is in dispute. We simply cannot make unequivocal statements when the evidence is unclear. It would be intellectually dishonest. I should add that the PBS website is an astoundingly poor source to use for such a serious and well studied topic. Paul B (talk) 16:05, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

קר — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.2.123.222 (talk) 18:07, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

80.2.123.222 seems to have overlooked the Wikipedia rule that contributions should be in English in the English Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.11.29.53 (talk) 14:40, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

Judaism on Education[edit]

Could we include the role of Jewish organizations in Judaism? Orthodox Union, Aish HaTorah, Chabad and Rohr JLI?

Overall Article: Editorial Help[edit]

This article feels extremely muddled, verbose, arcane, and just a plain hodgepodge for a first time reader. Seriously I am getting a headache by reading it- it seems like a collection of random pet contributions that grew until enormously unwieldy over time. I understand that any edit becomes extremely painful and divisive on a Wikipedia article of this importance, but something needs to be done.

Perhaps some of the main editors of this article, who babysit it, so to speak, and contribute often, can get together and start a discussion to find a way to clean this thing up and make it a product of excellence.

Jewish RSs[edit]

I am engaged in a chat on a talk page here with an editor who is of the view that Jewish RSs (e.g., The Forward) and presumably Israeli RSs (the conversation includes Haaretz) should not be relied on as refs for inclusion in text of an article of (certain?) Jewish subjects (such as whether a person is Jewish). The conversation may interest some of you. --Epeefleche (talk) 05:12, 27 January 2015 (UTC)