Talk:Julius Wellhausen

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Deathdate[edit]

Please note, in the article in the German version (de:Julius Wellhausen) he died 10 days before he died in the English version. What is his real day of death? -- 20:43, 1 March 2006‎ 62.0.129.58

2008[edit]

Wellhausen died on 1918 January 7. Someone has correctly harmonized the English and German Wikipedias. Richard David Ramsey 03:57, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Inaccurate generalization of Wellhausen's approach[edit]

From Chronic2 (talk) 15:08, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The phrase "uncompromising scientific attitude" as applied to Wellhausen's studies in this article is questionable. Recent scholarship has better characterized his approach as a "deductive" methodology. The use of "scientific" is inexact and inappropriate, since it has not been demonstrated that Wellhausen used the scientific method, as defined in the relevant Wikipedia article, in his writing. To be accurate and in accord with scholarly studies of his work, the phrase should be changed to "uncompromising deductive method." Citations should be given that define more specifically Wellhausen's approach, and further citations showing how he used this approach to reconstruct Israel's history.

Chronic2 (talk) 15:08, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Evaluations of Wellhausen's methods in recent scholarship[edit]

User:PiCo,

You has removed the this section from this Article. You gave POV as the reason. It is a substantial part of the article. I am not an expert in this field but I think that the article has lost a lot of useful information. What about reinstalling it and marking up the sentences that you believe are POV.

Thanks TomyDuby (talk) 14:54, 24 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm trying to keep the article to a dispassionate outline of Wellhausen's achievement as a scholar. PiCo (talk) 23:49, 10 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal to redirect Ritual decalogue to Covenant code[edit]

Please see my proposal here and comment/vote. Thanks, Slrubenstein | Talk 15:47, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

External Link[edit]

The 'What is the JEDP Theory? at GotQuestions.org' link not especially concerned with Julius Wellhausen, nor is it a good refutation of Documentary Hypothesis. I'm not especially familiar with WP rules, but I don't think that link has a place on a biographical article of Wellhausen.Stelorl (talk) 05:36, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment comment[edit]

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Julius Wellhausen/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

The quotation "almost before I heard his reasons" is NOT in the Encyclopaedia Judaica as found in any web site. Perhaps it is in the Jewish Encyclopaedia.

If the quotation IS in the Encyclopaedia Judaica 2007 print version, can someone kindly supply the page number?

And it would be better to cite the original source, possibly the introduction to Prolegomena zur Geschichte Israels.

I express no doubt about the authenticity of the quotation per se. It rings true to Wellhausen. But the exact source needs disambiguation.

W0103411 (talk) 19:23, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Last edited at 19:23, 21 November 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 20:43, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Perceived anti-Jewish bias[edit]

Jewish scholars of religion were rarely satisfied with Wellhausen's treatment of Judaism. The old Jewish Encyclopedia said "Although his works are monuments of marvelous scholarship, they may be said to be marred by an unmistakable anti-Jewish bias and a consequent ignoring of the labors of Jewish writers."[1] and Solomon Schechter said that the "Higher Criticism" should really be called the "Higher Anti-Semitism". AnonMoos (talk) 15:45, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, those German scholars saw Protestantism as the peak of religion, and therefore saw the rituals of Judaism as decadent religion, this has been properly explained by newer scholars. Tgeorgescu (talk) 19:28, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Wellhausen did engage in anti-Jewish and anti-Catholic polemics, and he conflated his own religious prejudices with his scholarly work. But this is something known to all serious Bible scholars, a sign that in his time Bible scholarship was yet in a rather puerile (or unprofessional) stage of development. His JEDP is no longer the dominant paradigm of European Bible scholars, but scores highly in the US. tgeorgescu (talk) 22:25, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This article should mention Graf[edit]

Wellhaussen worked with a Bible scholar called "Graf", and the Documentary hypothesis used to be known as the "Graf-Wellhaussen hypothesis". Why is there no mention of Graf in this article? Rollo August (talk) 18:53, 30 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]