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In Europe there are two classes of lawyers, the jurists and what is in many places known as advocates.
In Belgium we use the English term lawyer for everyone who can plea (you have to do a 3 years internship for that). People who have studied law and are not a lawyer because they haven't done their internship are referred to with the general term jurists (but lawyers are part of the jurists too). To speak in Venn diagram's terms: if jurists and lawyers are two concentric circles (or Venn diagrams). Jurists is the outer one and lawyers the inner. The quote implies that jurists excludes lawyers.
In Continental law (as apposed to Anglo-American law) there are no 2 types of lawyers in the sense of barristers and solicitors (in England). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.8.131.52 (talk) 14:22, 11 January 2007
The term is widely used in American English, but in the United Kingdom and many Commonwealth countries it has only historical and specialist usage.
- Yes I'm very dubious about this statement too, I'm not sure it's particularly helpful. This article also doesn't cite any references so it seems this is just the opinion of whoever wrote the text. Without references I'm inclined to rewrite this to simply state the facts. Some examples of its useage would be good.Gymnophoria (talk) 00:48, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
- The definition in the intro is contradicted by two statements in the next section that in N America the word is usually used only for judges, or for eminent judges and academics. I have tagged the article as contradictory, and disputed the same definition used at Category:Jurists by nationality. - Fayenatic (talk) 17:09, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
Roman law (historical)?
Just to add more confusion to the discussion, in ancient Rome, jurisconsults (iuris consulti) were legal professionals in the sense of men learned in law. They were academics, but their issued legal opinions carried a lot of persuasive weight and were frequently consulted by lawyers and judges.
I believe its a misnomer to equate the term "jurist" with "jurisconsult", the latter should be exclusively reserved for referring to the abovementioned Roman-era individuals. In English, "jurist" is a broad term simply meaning anybody well-versed in or trained in law. Of course in other languages, especially those operating in Civil Law jurisdictions, the term "jurist" may carry other professional connotations as the article has identified. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.108.40.206 (talk) 22:33, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
Someone with an expertise in law, specifically legal terminology, needs to edit this article, which currently has a very confused definition of the term, and contradicts itself on the prominence of the term in different dialects. References, of course, are sorely lacking. ❤ Yutsi Talk/ Contributions ( 偉特 ) 14:46, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
- Indeed. I am looking for two articles on this Wikipedia: 1/ about the legal profession in general (incl. lawyers and judges and scholars), 2/ about law scholars, university professors, people who do jurisprudence. Which of them is this (supposed to be)? Littledogboy (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:34, 28 June 2013 (UTC)