Talk:Justice Party (United States)

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Political position[edit]

Why was this party originally listed as center-left? It shares a lot more with the Democratic Progressive Caucus and the Green Party than, say, Obama's mainstream liberalism, and its platform is firmly to the left of the resolutely center-left US Democratic Party.

Since there isn't a source, I changed it until someone can justify otherwise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.189.22.31 (talk) 13:16, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

--- I think the Justice Party should be considered center-left, as the party is not challenging capitalism, but merely seeking to regulate it. It's Keynesian in these regards, rather than neoliberal, but this does not make it leftist! Like European social democracy parties, the Justice Party is center-left. The Democratic Progressive Caucus is not left-wing; It's center-left, whereas the rest of the party is center (Just think of Bill Clinton and the "New Democrats"). The left consists of anti-capitalists, such as SYRIZA in Greece or the Bolivarian parties in Latin America. I think part of the problem with classifying political parties and positions in the United States is due to rhetoric and symbolic battles. The wikipedia page on the political spectrum proves my point: "Thus, the word 'left' in American political parlance may refer to 'liberalism' and be identified with the Democratic Party, whereas in a country such as France these positions would be regarded as relatively more right-wing, and 'left' is more likely to refer to 'socialist' positions rather than 'liberal' ones."

We need a more objective political spectrum, from left to right. If we plot socialism on the left and capitalism on the right (in their "purest" forms), then Keynesianism is in the middle. Really, the Democratic Party is center-right in these regards. That's why you see the Conservative Party in the UK holding positions to the left of the Democratic Party in the US. Granted, I'm leaving out social issues here, but I think that if you look at political parties across Europe and the world, you'll see a much different classification system in the United States. I'm changing this back to center-left. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.2.129.227 (talk) 02:45, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

If one reads the comments posted by Justice Party members on its own forum, you would see that there are still quite a few of them clinging on to some notion of centrist nonsense, whereby the JP takes a stand for interests of both Left and Right, a ridiculous concept considering that efforts to defend inequality would sorta kinda negate any efforts to strengthen equality. Let's remember that the Right exists only because of inequality and would instantly vaporize if that foundation were removed. We can stop being silly now. 68.190.23.42 (talk) 14:42, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Rationale for party's formation[edit]

What distinguishes this party from the Green Party? They seem similar. The article ought to cover something about the rationale for founding the party, specifically why the founders did not/do not simply join the Greens.CountMacula (talk) 04:04, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

In the begining of 2012 Rocky said "I like the Green Party and those I have met who are associated with it. However, that party seems to pursue a loser's strategy of conceding that it is simply interested in engaging and expanding the dialogue on issues. It is also perceived as a marginal party that will not grow into a major force in U.S. politics. I hope to see a coalition of either the Green Party or many of its members with the Justice Party"[1] I doubt this is relevant for the page however.Joshgreene (talk) 00:42, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

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  1. ^ http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/ob83a/iama_us_presidential_candidate_for_2012_rocky.  Missing or empty |title= (help)