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Sultan Ahmed II and Shah Muzammil: rather strange titles for the Abbasi in Cairo.[edit]

Who were Sultan Ahmed II and Shah Muzammil??? I find these to be rather strange titles for the members of the Al-Abbasi Family in Cairo. СЛУЖБА (talk) 06:03, 21 October 2011 (UTC)


Wealthy people among the Kalhora change their surnames and declare themselves as Abbasi's and claim to have originated from sort sort of ruler in Egypt. This claim is highly contested and is not accepted by most Kalhora who claim to have local Sindhi origins.

Sources? Dougweller (talk) 15:31, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
source is here A Glossary Of The Tribes And Castes Of The Punjab And North-West Frontier Province By H.A. Rose. page 440
Kalhora or Sarai, originally a Jat tribe, also known as Doddi Lati, which gave a dynasty to Sind and is still represented in Dera Ghazi Khan. Its ancestors were darweshes who followed the tenets of the Sayyid Muhammad, the Junpuri, a noted teacher, and one of them, Harmus, espoused a daughter of the Abara Jats of Sind, receiving a grant of land as her dower. His son or grandson. Shaikh Nasir, and his son Shaikh Din Muhammad established their temporal and spiritual authority over the Abara territory in Upper Sind. His brother Yar Muhammad threw off all allegiance to the Mughals, seized the Siwistan sarkar of Thatha, the Siwi mahali of Bakhar in the Multan Province, and Dihar, and wrested the title of Khudayar from the Mughal authorities. His descendant Nur Muhammad drove the Daudpotras out of the zamindari of Lakkhi, in the Bakhar mahal. In 1736-37 the Lati Khan, Khudayar received the province of Thatha, together with the southern part of the Bakhar sarkar, but two or three years later he was stripped of two-thirds of his territory by Nadir Shah. After Nadir Shahs death however the Khudayar assumed authority over all Sind, under the nominal suzerainty of the Durranis, but their rule was short-lived. Nur Muhammad Kalhora was succeeded on his death in 1762 by his son Muhammad Murad, but he only ruled for five years and was deposed by the Talpur Baloch, who set up his brother Mian Ghulam Shah (1757-58). An attempt by his brother Attar Khan to regain Sind, under the authority of a Durrani grant, failed, Ghulam Shah died in 1771, while superintending the erection of the fortress of Haidarabad in Sindh, after a stormy reign of 15 years. He had in 1758 allowed the East India Company to establish a factory in Sindh, but Sarfarz Khan, his son and successor, cancelled the permit in 1775. A year previously he had caused Bahram Khan, head of the Talpurs, and one of his sons to be assassinated, and this led his dethronement, in or about 1786.-- (talk) 15:03, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

Major copy edit[edit]

Hello there. I've just completed a major copy edit on this page. you will see that anything that was "patting a peacock", all honorifics and anything that was unintelligible has gone. I will point out that I know nothing of this area at all, so what you see is simply the understanding of a native English speaking person from what was already there. Please improve with well sourced information. Kind regards to all, Myrtle G. Myrtlegroggins (talk) 10:34, 12 March 2014 (UTC) KALHORA DEMANDED AND HELPED TO KILL A SUFI SAINT SHAH INAYAT FOR FEAR OF HIS LAND REFORMING VIEWS. HE SAID HE WHO WORKS WILL GET THE LAND. THIS+ INFURIATED THE KALHORAS WHO WERE LANDLORDS AND FEARED THE REBELLION. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 16:02, 4 August 2014 (UTC)