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[edit] "lit. Age of Kali"
Unless ime very much in error, ~Kalii Yugaa~ is Darkness Age not "Age of Kali". The confusion is from imprecise transcription, k_a_l_i being uzed for both words. The goddess is Kaalii (long a, long i; meaning ~The Dark One~), the demon is Kaali (long a, short i), and :darkness is Kalii (short a, long i). If any-one has better information, ime keen to see it.
_ Froggo Zijgeb on 18`7`2006.
- Our article on Kali says that Kali means darkness, black. Secretlondon (talk) 23:29, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
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- Those are two different Kali's. It has nothing to do with the goddess Kali. The Kali in question is the male demon of the same name. --Ghostexorcist (talk) 19:40, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Thanks so much for this clarification... It did not seem right that they were calling Kali a demon, when she was actually a hologram of Devi Durga's forehead, who actually fought and kill the demons. From what I understood. Thanks again. There are many fine points like this only a person raised studying this kind of thing could know... Keep up the good work. Can you also edit this incorrect info? Or do we have to read the discussion everytime to hopefully find out what each topics mistakes are? —Preceding unsigned comment added by DeviDarshan (talk • contribs) 04:22, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you for your kind remarks. The "Kali" in "Age of Kali" is actually linked to the Kali demon page. I guess I can tweak the entry a little to avoid further confusion. --Ghostexorcist (talk) 13:39, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Translation
Where the previous description of Kali Yuga presented it with many misogynistic and intolerant views, a translation of the Mahabharata found at hinduism.co.za/ seems to reinforce these views. Where by no means am I endorsing such opinions, nor am I claiming that the Hindu religion universally holds such views, I was wondering if anyone could determine the legitimacy of said translation? 74.67.115.126 01:05, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
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- Man, what are you doing on a Hindu article page?...you should be on discussion pages that deal with marxism, communism, liberalism, frankfort school or other kind of kali yuga philosophical non-sense. You are seeing all that is being written through your modern, marxist, materialistic, left-wing, immoral, corrupt kali yuga beliefs and tendencies. Your veiws are the typical kali yuga denizen beleif.zeuspitar (talk) 23:54, 05 March 2008
[edit] User:Maldek's edits
Is this the talk page? HI I am Maldek and I am wondering why people keep editing my information. I am making the right changes to incorrect information about Kali-Yuga and other Vedic History. Please let me know what information I am listing incorrectly and I will prove it to you. Thank You. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Maldek (talk • contribs) 02:31, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
- Please read the explanation left on your talk page and especially wikipedia policies WP:V and WP:NPOV before readding the unsourced information. Abecedare (talk) 02:01, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Yuga Lifespans 100,000 years, 10,000 years, 1000 years, 100 years, 20 years.
I was wondering if we could add a little bit about the average lifespan in the different yugas.
I have many sources that show that in Sata Yuga the average lifespan was 100,000 years. In Treta Yuga the average lifespan was 10,000 years. In Dvapara Yuga the average lifespan was 1,000 years. In the beginning of Kali-Yuga 5,110 years ago the average lifespan was 100 years and at the end of Kali-Yuga the average lifespan will be 20 years. Could we add this in the Yuga articles. Thank You. Here are some sources.
http://www.harekrishnatemple.com/bhakta/chapter19.html
http://www.vaikunt.org/AyyaVaikuntar/kalanemi.htm
http://courseware.acadiau.ca/courses/engl/3663/wiki/index.php/Kalyug
http://www.thelemapedia.org/index.php/Yuga
http://salvia.us/archive/10815.shtmlMaldek (talk) 01:45, 10 May 2008 (UTC) I have added the lifespans, though someone seems to not belive it. Why were my edits deleted!!!!!!!!
[edit] 5,000 years after 3102 B.C. is 1898 CE not 1899 CE
I was wondering if somebody could change the Golden Period of Kali-Yuga to 1898 CE instead of 1899 CE because if you say Kali-Yuga started in 3102 B.C. and that the golden period will begin 5,000 years after Kali-Yuga's start then that equals 1898 CE. I have tried to change it before but for some reason by edit was constantly reverted. To me 1898 CE makes mathematical sense, whereas 1899 CE is off by one year. If you could fix this small error, I would be much obliged. Thank You.Maldek (talk) 01:49, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
- Your error is assuming that the first year of the Kali-Yuga was year one. Because all years in the Hindu calendar are elapsed/expired/completed years, at any time before that first year had been completed, it was not yet year one, so it must be year zero. So 3102 cannot be subtracted from 5000. Only 3101 should be subtracted, yielding 1899 as the year when 5000 years have elapsed. — Joe Kress (talk) 02:16, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
I have added the lifespans to all the yuga articles. Here are the RELIABLE sources I used:
http://www.harekrishnatemple.com/bhakta/chapter19.html
http://www.vaikunt.org/AyyaVaikuntar/kalanemi.htm
http://courseware.acadiau.ca/courses/engl/3663/wiki/index.php/Kalyug
http://www.thelemapedia.org/index.php/Yuga
http://salvia.us/archive/10815.shtml
Gopal81ChatMe!ReadMe!! 02:10, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Golden age within Kali Yuga is 'to start 5,000 years after its beginning'
I respectfully request evidence be given for the claim that a golden age within Kali Yuga is 'to start 5,000 years after its beginning'. The reference given 'ibid, 4.129.50' assuming it refers to the Brahma Vaivarta Purana provides no supporting evidence for this claim, at least that I can see.
What the Brahma Vaivarta Purana according to gauranga.org states is: 'Lord Hari will stay on this earth for the first ten-thousand years of Kali-yuga. For that time the deities of the demigods will be worshiped and the Puranas and scriptures will also be present. For half that period the Ganga and other holy places will be present. For half that period the village temples and the Vedas studied by learned brahmanas will be present.'
The Brahma Vaivarta Purana according to archive.org states something similar 'O Ganges, you had better remain on earth for five thousand years of Kali.' ... 'My believers will remain on earth for 10,000 years of the iron age.'
So there's evidently a progressive decline. I flagged the relevant citation with a verification failure for now. ICouldBeWrong (talk) 15:21, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
- I've edited the article to address this issue, and now consider it resolved. BTW Dougweller thanks for removing 'orthodox', on reflection I agree it was spurious. ICouldBeWrong (talk) 09:32, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
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