Talk:Kalyan Singh

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National Democratic Alliance

Someone has just added the NDA as "other party" in the infobox. The NDA is not a political party, so this is incorrect. In so far as Singh was involved with the NDA, he remained a BJP member etc. -Sitush (talk) 20:27, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

Someone else just reinstated it, I removed again with a note pointing to this talk page. If NDA becomes a "thing" in infoboxes, it is going to add massively to maintenance of hundreds of articles & I am pretty sure that worldwide we don't note coalitions in this manner. - Sitush (talk) 21:34, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

But if you see the article of majority of politicians the name of alliance is also mentioned in their article. The term political affiliations means that we should add every possible affilations. Sitush EditWiki45^talk EditWiki45 (talk) 21:36, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

Worldwide? For example, the many coalition governments of Italy and Israel, and the Conservative-Liberal coalition in the UK from around 2010? What has happened for prior Indian coalitions? - Sitush (talk) 21:39, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

It is the parties which enter coalition arrangements, not individual members. The latter remain associated with their actual parties. - Sitush (talk) 21:42, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

I'm with Sitush. The alliance in the lead is overkill, in particular because Singh's significant roles as a politician weren't enabled by the NDA; he led BJP governments, not NDA governments. Vanamonde (Talk) 04:12, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Rumours

This edit seems to be rumour-mongering, which is not something we usually accept and has WP:BLP issues that his death does not avoid. - Sitush (talk) 07:35, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Thus said, it is unusual to have a biographical article that makes no mention of relationships, although it does say in passing that he has 2 kids & at least 1 grandchild. Is this a Modi-like thing connected to the RSS mentality of being seen to be dedicated to the cause & so no time for marriage or other meaningful relationships? - Sitush (talk) 07:46, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

He was definitely married, but there's precious little info about his family (besides the two politicians) that seems to be supported by RS. His parents, too, are named on various dodgy websites but we can't use those. If someone finds more sourceable information, it would be quite welcome. Vanamonde (Talk) 08:07, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

His Lok Sabha official bio should at least state the parental and spousal names, & we assume those bios to be OK to use. - Sitush (talk) 08:14, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Weird source

I have just removed a source that doesn't even mention Singh. Was it included to support the claim that the RSS are Hindu-nationalist? - Sitush (talk) 09:39, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

@Sitush: Yeah, that's the only reason it was there. In retrospect, likely unnecessary, but with a figure like Singh, there's few sources giving both biographical detail (he was a member of the RSS) and broader perspective (The ideology of the RSS). Vanamonde (Talk) 07:07, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

WP:MOS

Sitush undid my edit to the lede to conform it to MOS:JOBTITLE, with the rationale that such titles are "always capitalised" in India. While it is true that the MOS is a guideline, I see no reason why the guideline should not be followed on this article. I know WP:OTHERSTUFF isn't a great argument, but JOBTITLE is followed, for instance, in Narendra Modi. One editor's view of a country's orthographic conventions should not be allowed to override longstanding project consensus. Thoughts from others? AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 23:44, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Er, WP:MOSTIES? This shows that MOS is often fairly contradictory & is mostly devised by pedants with, seemingly, nothing better to do. It isn't useless, of course, but common sense can go out of the window as it tries to impose a sense of unity on a disparate world. - Sitush (talk) 04:36, 23 August 2021 (UTC)