Talk:Kamenets-Podolsky Pocket

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Who won?[edit]

I think it should be clear that this battle was not a Soviet defeat or German victory. While the Soviets failed to achieve the aim of destroying 1st Panzer Army, they succeeded in neutering it, and they gained immense territory. If that is a defeat, I guess we need to count Waterloo as a British defeat, and the Battle for Normandy as an Allied one. Andreas 09:49, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

It was not a German tactical victory either, unless the Battle of Falaise does qualify for that label too. Andreas
I agree, but shouldn't we put something like "German breakout" in the outcome box? TheCheeseManCan 03:26, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
I think it would overload the box, and it is sufficient to describe this in the text. Andreas 05:34, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

N.F.Vatutin ?[edit]

Gen. N. F. Vatutin mortally wounded from February 29 and then is taken in Kiev Military Hospital, how this campaign was the commander anymore? --Minh Tâm-T41-BCA (talk) 05:29, 17 June 2012 (UTC)--