Talk:Kanpyō (food)

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Lagenaria or Benincasa?[edit]

Lagenaria siceraria var. hispida is a synonym of Benincasa hispida ([1]). While L. s. var. hispida is associated with kanpyo on many websites, much of that has likely been influenced by Wikipedia's claim of the source of kanpyo over the last ten years. Pre-Wikipedia, this 1987 patent distinguishes between Benincasa hispida (togan, kamouri) and L. s. var. hispida (yugao, which is claimed as the source of kanpyo). This paper lists both Benincasa hispida (tougan) and Lageneria siceraria (no variety) (yugao, kanpiyo). OK, so "yougao" is the source of kanpyo. But is it soemthing different from Benincasa hispida or not? Botanically, the synonymy is pretty straightforward, but I've certainly encountered other cases where the "wrong" botanical name is consistently associated with a traditional food/medicine product in non-botanical literature. I'm not sure whether kanpyo is a Lagenaria product (with a wrong var. hispida) or a Benincasa product (which is perhaps at odds with a distinction between tougan and yugao). Plantdrew (talk) 21:18, 16 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

A quick scan of Japanese journals articles seems to indicate it's Lagenaria siceraria or Lagenaria vulgaris. I thought Lagenaria siceraria var. hispida seemed hinky but was going to check it out later. --Nessie (talk) 02:07, 17 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

To add to article[edit]

To add to this article: the Japanese spelling (in kanji and/or hiragana) of yugao and fukube. 173.88.246.138 (talk) 03:11, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Done; please check (why does fukube have only a katakana spelling if it's a native Japanese term?). 173.88.246.138 (talk) 03:15, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]