Talk:Karl Robert Eduard von Hartmann

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
          This article is of interest to the following WikiProjects:
WikiProject Biography (Rated B-class)
WikiProject icon This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.
B-Class article B  This article has been rated as B-Class on the project's quality scale.
 
WikiProject Philosophy (Rated C-class, Low-importance)
WikiProject icon This article is within the scope of WikiProject Philosophy, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of content related to philosophy on Wikipedia. If you would like to support the project, please visit the project page, where you can get more details on how you can help, and where you can join the general discussion about philosophy content on Wikipedia.
C-Class article C  This article has been rated as C-Class on the project's quality scale.
 Low  This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
 
WikiProject Germany (Rated C-class, Low-importance)
WikiProject icon This article is within the scope of WikiProject Germany, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Germany on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.
C-Class article C  This article has been rated as C-Class on the project's quality scale.
Checklist icon
 Low  This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
 


Unintended humor[edit]

The article approaches the comic when it claims that "The conception of the Unconscious, by which Von Hartmann describes his ultimate metaphysical principle, is not at bottom as paradoxical as it sounds, being merely a new and mysterious designation for the Absolute of German metaphysicians." This sentence implies that the Absolute is not myserious but is familiar to everyday life. In truth, the Absolute is one of the most mysterious concepts ever contrived. No specific example from experience can be given of this, one of the most abstract and empty of all concepts. Lestrade (talk) 17:04, 19 June 2008 (UTC)Lestrade

Not necessarily, the way to the Absolute from a system of logic may be of many paths, some more contrived and confusing than others, but one might simply define the Absolute as that without qualities; that which is divisible into everything; the essence common to all substance. The simplest of formal considerations. How that is itself considered may be more or less of debate, but it seems intuited the same in most philosophies. The mystery to its nature is how it relates to our conception of it, and not it itself. Nagelfar (talk) 08:55, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

"[I]t seems intuited the same in most philosophies." No, the Absolute is not intuited at all. It is not related to any perception. There are no sensible qualities that can be experienced. The Absolute is a mere word that does not signify a concept that is derived from a positive, experienced perception. Its very meaning is "the unrelated." It can therefore be defined the same in most philosophies. It can be defined because the word itself comes from the Latin for "loosened from" or "unrelated."Lestrade (talk) 18:03, 28 November 2010 (UTC)Lestrade

More comedy: as though being "without qualities…divisible into everything…the essence common to all substance" is clearly evident and not mysterious. Like "Absolute," these are meaningless words that designate imaginary concepts. Lestrade (talk) 00:45, 17 December 2013 (UTC)Lestrade

Nothing about support for genocide of other nations[edit]

The article is missing support by Hartmann for exterminating other nations. --MyMoloboaccount (talk) 22:52, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Give us a quote and a citation.Lestrade (talk) 00:37, 17 December 2013 (UTC)Lestrade