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Semi-protected edit request on 29 July 2014[edit]

Amitabh Bachchan who is the pioneer of hindi cinema is a Kayastha from Uttar Pradesh which is the hub of Kayatha community.

2601:9:1A80:977:B5FE:F46D:38F5:58EE (talk) 22:37, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

X mark.svg Not done It is unclear exactly what you want to add and you have also provided no sources. --NeilN talk to me 22:49, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
For Bachchan, see User:Sitush/Common#Castelists. It would be a violation of WP:BLP. - Sitush (talk) 00:16, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 August 2014[edit]

I would like to request to change the population of Kayasthas to 10 million which is incorrectly given as 8 lacs at the end of this article under modern india subheading 203.110.84.194 (talk) 09:53, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: as you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to any article. - Arjayay (talk) 10:51, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

KAYASTHA - ORIGINS[edit]

The page about kayastha > origin contain that, "Kayasthas have therefore also been mentioned as a "mixed caste", combining Brahman-Sudra (lower caste) and sometimes Kshatriya as well.[1]"

This not right. Please delete this line because kayastha are direct descenders of a vedic (ancient)god and it this line are degrading status of a highly status of a cast. How you can say this about a cast while considering a writer's book. This reference [1]or a book can't justify the status of a supreme cast.

I request please delete the line, in kayastha > origin section that is "Kayasthas have therefore also been mentioned as a "mixed caste", combining Brahman-Sudra (lower caste) and sometimes Kshatriya as well." It's degrading social status of pinnacle cast of hindu religion.§ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.215.159.126 (talk) 17:14, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

No. The line is properly sourced and your claim that the "kayastha are direct descenders of a vedic (ancient)god" is rooted in myth, not history. --NeilN talk to me 17:21, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

Karn[edit]

Why is Karn redirected here, anyways? The name doesn't appear in the article. --NeilN talk to me 18:02, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

@NeilN: Probably because the previous content in the page was about Kayastha. I've opened a section below for other comments, and the idea of changing the destination of the redirect on Karn. -- Orduin T 18:12, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Karn redirect[edit]

There has recently been issue with adding the code {{redirect|Karn|the Marvel Comics character|Karn (comics)}} to the page. I added it back because people searching for a comic book character would be confused to find this page instead. However, it might just be a better idea to redirect Karn to Karn (comics) with the note {{redirect|Karn|the [[Hindu]] community|Kayastha}}.

Any ideas? -- Orduin T 18:09, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

The link should be to the Primary topic, which I think is the caste, not a minor comic book character.
Furthermorre, as Karn (comics) is itself a redirect to List of Marvel Comics characters: K such a redirect would have to appear part-way down a page, making that page look odd.
Such a relocation would probably raise far more annoyance from people looking for the caste finding themselves in a list of minor comic characters - I suggest it is left where it is, - Arjayay (talk) 18:44, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
Redirect Karn to Karn (comics). No hatnote there unless readers can figure out why Kayastha relates to Karn from the current article text. I sure as heck can't. --NeilN talk to me 19:09, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
Please see The Karn article before it was turned into a redirect by User:Sitush - However, I fully agree that information and reference should have been integrated when the redirect was made - Arjayay (talk) 19:16, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Notable Kayasthas[edit]

Caste, ethnicity, race and religion lists cause lots of arguments in Wikipedia, please follow the general consensus:-
All names added to a list must have verifiable, reliable sources to show that they are a notable enough to be included on the list, which almost always requires an article on the English Wikipedia.
In a caste, ethnicity, race or religion list, there also needs to be a clear, specific, reference to show that the person is a member of that caste, ethnicity, race or religion.
A person's last name is NOT sufficient evidence for their inclusion in, or exclusion from, a list, as assumptions based on a name are synthesis - a form of original research which is not allowed.
If the person is alive, their inclusion in any list is also covered by our policies on biographies of living people, so a specific reference, where they state they are a member of the category is required.
Someone stating, or claiming, that someone else is, or is not, a member of a caste, ethnicity, race or religion, is insufficient.
Some people, such as Amitabh Bachchan, have clearly stated they do not agree with caste or ethnic categorization, as these are divisive.
These people should not be included in any such list even after their death. - Arjayay (talk) 16:57, 1 February 2015 (UTC)