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Homepage[edit]

www.khaledhosseini.com

```` June 27, 2007, david ahnert Could I add a link to the bayareaintellect.com, which simply provides a report of Hosseini's talk about his new novel? I do not understand why an establishment magazine like TIME can have such a link, but an indie magazine cannot.

Hosseini's ethnicity[edit]

Hosseini's ethnic background is a perpetual cause of pointless contention in this article, and I intend to continue to revert any unsourced assertions on the subject, per WP:VERIFY. There have been many edits on this subject, and ample time for someone to provide a reference, but none have been forthcoming. Please don't re-add that information unless you can substantiate it with a reliable source. --ShelfSkewed Talk 18:27, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

I know Hussaini and his family personally. he is from the Hussaini clan of Herat. They are ethnic Tajiks--Anoshirawan 21:52, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
Personal vouching does not constitute a reliable source. It amounts to "It's true because I say so." --ShelfSkewed Talk 21:55, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

shelfskewd is right, we don't know his true ethnic background. what if he is half from one ethnic and half from other? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ragoo Spigetti (talkcontribs) 23:56, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

His last name gives away his ethnicity as Tajik, just as a last name ending with a "zai" like Karzai or Popalzai would give away a Pashtun ethnicity. -- Behnam 03:13, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

I believe you. Now provide a reliable source for that assertion, and I'll stop removing it. --ShelfSkewed Talk 04:10, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
Well you can do a search for the last name "Hosseini" even here on Wikipedia and you'll find all Hosseinis are Iranians. -- Behnam 05:43, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
I know people from Wardak, Jalallabad, Peshawar, etc. named Hussaini. Nice try. --Aquabee (talk) 16:08, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
That's because there are Farsiwans in those areas. Also Wardak has Shia Hazaras who also have that last name. TheNewPianist (talk) 04:41, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
Actually these are Pashto speaking people that I am referring to. What is with this obsession of yours anyway? Are you that insecure? --Aquabee (talk) 17:16, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
The only other ethnic group in Afghanistan that could have a last name like Hosseini would be the Hazaras. However the Hazaras are Asiatic people and Khaled Hosseini is clearly not a Hazara. He must be a Tajik then. I don't know of a source that will state his ethnicity directly since it's taboo to do so among Afghanistanis, but it's very trivial that his ethnicity is Tajik and I don't think trivial things like that need a direct citation. -- Behnam 05:46, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
I certainly agree that the point is trivial, but then why is it so contentious? You and at least one other editor insist that Dr. Hosseini is Tajik, while another editor (or editors) insists that he is not, and no one can offer any verifiable evidence one way or the other. Until such time as a reliable source is found to support a statement about his ethnicity, the information should be omitted. --ShelfSkewed Talk 12:53, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Khaled Hosseini is american citizen and has american nationality! He isnt in any way related to Afghan or Afghanistan His ethnicity is Tajik/Persian. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Socrates0 (talkcontribs) 22:19, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

The use of Afghan or Afghanistani is merely intended to convey that Hosseini was born in, and was formerly a citizen of, Afghanistan--a fact widely available from multiple reliable sources, and beyond dispute--nothing more. Any further statements about his ethnicity are, without a reliable source to support them, unverified assertions and therefore subject to removal at any time. --ShelfSkewed Talk 22:25, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Any further statements about his ethnicity are, without a reliable source to support them, unverified assertions and therefore subject to removal at any time. --Bejnar (talk) 16:38, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
"If you find unsourced or poorly sourced contentious material about a living person—whether in an article or on a talk page—remove it immediately." (emphasis in original) from Wikipedia:Citing sources#When adding material to the biography of a living person.--Bejnar (talk) 16:50, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Hosseini's ethnicity is shrouded in mystery DELIBERATELY. I mean seriously, people. A person only conceals their ethnicity for very good reason. The fact is that he is a Tajik and a Shi`ite. Yet, this is treated like a well guarded secret because it would make way too clear the biases and prejudices in his writings. He's a Tajik and a Shi`ite and Tajiks and Shi`ites should stop trying to hide it. The guy is a best selling author. Be proud of it for God's sake and stop trying to conceal it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.209.203.254 (talk) 23:31, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Khaled referring to himself as an "Afghan"[edit]

At the 1:15 mark. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzwMvYmZ8_U

If any proponent of "Afghanistani" can find a snippet of Khaled Hosseini using this word, then please provide it here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aquabee (talkcontribs) 04:27, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

According to Princeton University's WordNet, Afghanistani is a synonym for Afghan (Afghan as in the fabricated nationality). So if Princeton says it's a synonym, there should be no issue with using Afghanistani instead. Especially considering that he is not an ethnic Afghan (see Pashtuns). TheNewPianist (talk) 05:37, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
Tell this to Khaled Hosseini who clearly calls himself an Afghan in this video and every other appearance. I don't buy your argument for a second. Nor do I think that you actually believe it either. I'd suggest you check any library for the use of "Afghanistani" in print. Even online, it's merely an anomaly. --Aquabee (talk) 05:43, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Princeton University's WordNet:

noun 1. a native or inhabitant of Afghanistan [syn: Afghan]

TheNewPianist (talk) 06:03, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Tell Khaled Hosseini that he is not Afghan. You know him, right? --Aquabee (talk) 06:10, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

He is an educated person, so he knows he is not Afghan already. Many Tajiks call themselves Afghan instead of Afghanistani for practical reasons (eg. to sell more books, etc). TheNewPianist (talk) 06:14, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
That's bordering on libel you know. I'm not wasting any more time here. --Aquabee (talk) 06:29, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

This paragraph bothers me:

"In 1976, Hosseini's father obtained a job in Paris and moved the family there. They chose not to return to Afghanistan because communists had seized power through a bloody coup. Instead, in 1980 they sought political asylum in the United States and made their residence in San Jose, California. Having left Afghanistan with only the clothes on their back, they were forced to subsist on welfare and food stamps for a brief period."


1) If they chose not to return to Afghanistan from Paris, how could they have left Afghanistan with little more than the clothes on their backs? 2) Additionally I dont think he is pashtun is he? Has he stated anywhere that he is pashtun?, unnless he has done so we should remove that "fact", since his name clearly implies that he is not pashtun. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.203.33.59 (talk) 00:48, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Comment on biography[edit]

[Transfered from article]

However on his official homepage it is clearly stated in the Bio section that "In 1976, the Afghan Foreign Ministry relocated the Hosseini family to Paris. They were ready to return to Kabul in 1980, but by then Afghanistan had already witnessed a bloody communist coup and the invasion of the Soviet army. The Hosseinis sought and were granted political asylum in the United States." Source: http://www.khaledhosseini.com/hosseini-bio.html

If they chose not to return to Afghanistan from Paris, how could they have left Afghanistan with little more than the clothes on their backs? Maybe someone is thinking of his book?-- Furthermore, saying that he is pashtun is just absurd. Again there seems to be mixing of reality and fiction. The kite runner is not an autobiograpy. In both his books he potrays the pashtuns as victimizers and I think its important to note that he is NOT a pashtun. Does someone have any sources that verify that he is pashtun, otherwise it is obvious from his name that he is not, or that they were forced to flee from Afghanistan even though they chose not to return to Afghanistan from Paris? Would appreciate it thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.203.33.59 (talkcontribs)


Its very stupid and naive to call someone Afghanistani when all over the web and the whole world and including himself mentions "Afghan". In interview with John Karazki he clearly called himself as "Pure Afghan"

Historian born 1975 (talk) 00:22, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

January 2008 reverts[edit]

To 84.59.98.184: You have recently made several edits to this article that are just reverts to an earlier version you edited. Although other editors have changed your edits, there are also other edits in between that your reverts are undoing. For example, I corrected the information about Hosseini's position with the UNHCR, based on the source already cited. If you would like to make changes to particular parts of the article, please don't do it in such a way that you undo other editors' good edits. It is not productive to just revert everything to the version you like without explanation.

As it is, your edits appear to be simply destructive of factual corrections, and to be adding unreferenced assertions about Hosseini's ethnicity. As I pointed out in an earlier edit summary, the references cited to support at least one of those statements do not say anything at all on the subject. Again, please be more selective in your edits, and if you have a particular point of disagreement, discuss it here instead of simply reverting again. Regards--ShelfSkewed Talk 23:04, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Husseini is a Tajik of the Qezelbash subgroup. That was the sole information i have changed. The citations you mention are not seeable. Concerned to his ethnicity, some Pashtun mf are always changing facts and turning them inti meaningless BS. An example. It is said he is an Afghan, sure, as someone who comes from Afghanistan, a country where Pashtuns try to Pashtunize it, but calling him as Pashtun, tough he is of Persian, Tajik background, is wrong. I do not know who wrote Husseini can speak Pashto, a language which is equivalent to the fart of a donkey and that Pashto is his native language BS! His parents left Afghanistan as TAJIKS before he have ever visited a school there and his native language if Persian not a fart. You need just to read his books how he is blaming Pashtun mentality and culture passively. He speak about their homosexuality, about their ritual marriage ceremonies (graping a woman and taking her by violence to the own house on a donkey) and many more. Specially the racist faces of Pashtuns are more than presented. Just read Kite Runner His background http://www.afgha.net/?q=node/4302 http://www.weshow.com/uk/videos/post/search?text=+Tajik-American


--88.68.215.70 (talk) 16:06, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

No, the Tajik information is NOT the only thing you are changing. You are also reverting different edits, by other editors, that have nothing to do with those subjects. And even on the topic of ethnicity, you are simply reinserting unsourced assertions on the subject. The references I am talking about are in the raw text (in the version you keep reverting to) directly after the phrase Tajik American, but the sources do not support that assertion of ethnicity.
Before you started your edits a couple days ago, the article had no references to Pashtun or Tajik, and that's where it should end up unless someone can come up with reliable sources. --ShelfSkewed Talk 16:48, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
Your last revert referred to vandalism. Can you be more specific please? --NeilN talkcontribs 17:37, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
See my comments above. The editor is reverting to a particular version he likes because the ethnicity information suits his POV. But in so doing he is reverting a number of other good edits made over a long period of time that have nothing to do with that. Further, the ethnicity information he is reinserting is unsourced. --ShelfSkewed Talk 17:43, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
For example the sentence "Having left Afghanistan with only the clothes on their back, they were forced to subsist on welfare and food stamps for a brief period." is not from the biography of Khaled Hossein, but is a statement about one of the characters in his book. It shouldn't be re-added. Similarly, there is no reason for removing the ISBN for Thousand Splendid Suns from the footnote. --Bejnar (talk) 00:36, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Banned User:Tajik and his false claims[edit]

All the IPs starting with the number 8 from Germany are used by the extreme POV pusher banned User:Tajik who is now adding false sources to claim that Khalid Hosseini is of Tajik ethnic background. Let me tell you if this was the case all the western media would have mentioned it in all of their articles about him because they do that with most famous Afghans. Banned user:Tajik is Qizilbash and he is pro-Iranian while at the same time he is anti-Afghanistan, anti-Afghan and anti-Pashtun. Please beware of this POV pusher and don't let him add false ethnicity in this article. The 8 sources he added are fake, mirror sites back to Wikipedia, Afgha.com is also a mirror site, it's a joke site and he is editing articles there, the youtube video does not even mention Hosseini's ethnicity.--119.30.76.43 (talk) 23:47, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Persian writer[edit]

IP editor 88.69.52.216 added categories for Persian people and Persian writers. If the citations are correct (I did not verify), Hosseini is a Tajik. There is a category attached to this article for Tajik. It seems that he wrote and published in English. Are these categories Persian people and Persian writers correctly appended to this article? --Bejnar (talk) 16:21, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

He is not from Persia and he didn't write in Persian, so it seems appropriate to delete these categories. --Bejnar (talk) 15:35, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
He is a Tajik and thus an ethnic Persian, Tajik=Persian, idiot Pashtun Turk.--84.59.202.75 (talk) 21:35, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
As ever, as long as this information about ethnicity remains a) unsourced and b) controversial, it will be removed from the article. --ShelfSkewed Talk 21:41, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
First of, Afghanistan is a multi-ethnic. There are many different ethnics, not only Pashtuns and Tajaks. We are not denying him being Tajak. Provide any reliable source which mentions this, just like it's done in most other articles. I believe he is Persian but not all Persians are Tajaks. Some Persians in Afghanistan really hate the word Tajak and they also hate being called such. They believe it's an offensive name because in the past Tajaks were mostly known as highway thieves or bandits. The Afghan Persians want to be known as the educated law abiding citizens of the country.--119.73.9.53 (talk) 04:13, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Afghan Persians are Tajiks and there is no distinct group called Persian in Afghanistan. other Persian-speakers in Afghanistan are Hazaras and Persianized Uzbeks and Pashtuns. according to Saifi Heravi and Al-Beruni the thieves and bandits were ethnic Pashtun tribes along the Khyber Pass. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Inuit18 (talkcontribs) 08:18, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Khalid Hussain Ethnicity as Hazara[edit]

Khalid Hussaini, ethnicity is not clear but can be estimated by his biography and name he is so called, The only shia Islam ethnic living in Afghanistan is clearly they are Hazara people, and Khalid Hussaini (Name) is only specific to shia Islam and is related to Hazara people names, Because Hazara people due being Shia usually uses the Ahlobait names (Peace upon their families and races) means Imam's family. So according to above mentions we could estimate Khalid would be a Hazara ethnic. We could also say that as his carrier and books are related to Hazara people and pashtun as the film The Kite Runner (film) totally focus on Friendship between Hazara and Pashtun boy, This would clearly claim that he cannot be ethnic Tajik and nor Pashtun reason is his name. so

KHALID HUSSAINI IS AN ETHNIC HAZARA Nurbandma (talk) 17:29, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

You may be entirely correct, but an educated assumption is not the same as a reliable, verifiable source. From Wikipedia:Verifiability: "The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth—that is, whether readers are able to check that material added to Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source, not whether we think it is true. Editors should provide a reliable source for...any material that is challenged or likely to be challenged, or the material may be removed."--ShelfSkewed Talk 17:50, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
Your point is also correct but I there is no any source or specific place where his ethnicity is declared clearly. But I will find and give it. 119.155.98.3 (talk) 14:51, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Nationality and ethnicity[edit]

I have re-added Afghan as his nationality after it was removed by User talk:Inuit18, a Wikipedian who has an allergy with the word Afghan. Hosseini's ethnic origin has been discussed before - his ethnicity is controversial and we don't know whether he is a Pashtun, Tajik or from another ethnicity. He is nationality is Afghan American, because he is both an Afghan and American. He writes "On the list of the most fortunate Afghans on the planet, I have to rank at the very top."1. Just because he has an American citizenship now, doesn't mean that he is not an Afghan anymore. (Ketabtoon (talk) 02:11, 14 November 2009 (UTC))

He is an American national not an Afghan national. This discussion is only a repeat and there is no reason why we should have this argument again.--Inuit18 (talk) 02:46, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Please, let us know who is an Afghan national? As far as the world and every one else is concerned, he is an Afghan American. He is both a citizen of Afghanistan and the United States. A person can have dual-citizenship. In reality, he is first an Afghan and then an American. He himself claims that he is an AFGHAN IN EXILE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzwMvYmZ8_U (1:15). (Ketabtoon (talk) 04:45, 14 November 2009 (UTC))
And please do read this, Nationality - The word "Nationality" in the infobox is linked to the same page. Let me quote it here as well "Membership can be acquired by being born within the jurisdiction of a state, by inheriting it from parents, or by a process of naturalization. Nationality affords the state jurisdiction over the person and affords the person the protection of the state." & "The word citizenship is often used in a different sense from nationality. The most common distinguishing feature of citizenship is that citizens have the right to participate in the political life of the state, such as by voting or standing for election. The term national includes both citizens and non-citizens." (Ketabtoon (talk) 04:53, 14 November 2009 (UTC))
It is not helpful to focus on just one meaning in a long article. Instead, we ought to reference the meaning as used in the template, whatever that may be. --Bejnar (talk) 18:12, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

For starters are we at least agreed that:

  1. He is a citizen of the United States, and
  2. He was born in Afghanistan

If not, please so state. --Bejnar (talk) 18:12, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

There is no doubt about that. He was born in Afghanistan and he moved to the United States, where he is a citizen now. What kind of proof does any one need to show that he is an Afghan national/citizen? The same proof can be requested for his American citizenship as well. Every person who was born in Afghanistan and carried an Afghan Tazkira (Afghan identity card) is an Afghan national. Khaled Hosseini has all the rights (to vote, to run for an office, to become a member of the parliament and so on in Afghanistan) that an Afghan should have. Hosseini himself claims that he is an Afghan in exile [1] - "Exile means to be away from one's home".
There is nothing to discuss in here. The problem is that user Inuit18 (and few other Wikipedians) has an allergy with the word Afghan. He had removed the nationality in the past as well in few other biographies, and User:VirtualSteve requested him not to that. (Ketabtoon (talk) 18:49, 14 November 2009 (UTC))
If that is the case under the law of Afghanistan (do you have a citation?), then there is no need to put in ambiguous "nationality" statements. --Bejnar (talk) 19:51, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
The constitution of Afghanistan has not banned dual citizenship. The constitution states "The word Afghan applies to every citizen of Afghanistan." and "No member of the nation can be deprived of his citizenship of Afghanistan. Affairs related to the citizenship and asylum are regulated by law." (Chapter 1, Article 4). The same applies for United States [2] - dual citizenship is not banned. Because of the 30 year war, thousands of Afghans took refugee in foreign countries. Except few cases (in countries where dual citizenship is not allowed), every person from Afghanistan is a citizen of Afghanistan.
"the stunningly successful first novel by an Afghan immigrant" New York Times
"Khaled Hosseini is a novelist and physician originally from Afghanistan." Guardian
"Afghan-born American novelist who was known for his vivid depictions of Afghanistan, most notably in The Kite Runner (2003)." Britanica
"says Afghan-born Hosseini." Time.com
"Khaled Hosseini is an Afghan-American author and physician." Biblio
"This is the largest community of Afghans outside of Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iran. There are maybe 80-90,000 Afghans," he said" CBS News
(Ketabtoon (talk) 20:48, 14 November 2009 (UTC))
  • I don't understand what all those other citations are for, we agreed that he was born in Afghanistan, see above. The key piece of constitutional law that you cited is No member of the nation can be deprived of his citizenship of Afghanistan. (grammar not withstanding). The United States does allow dual citizenship, this is usually the case where a child is born in a foreign country of U.S. parents. With naturalization, the case is different. So the next question would be whether Khaled Hosseini renounced his citizenship of Afghanistan when he became a U.S. citizen. If he is a naturalized U.S. citizen section 8 U.S.C. 1448 "Oath of renunciation and allegiance" requires him "(2) to renounce and abjure absolutely and entirely all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which the applicant was before a subject or citizen;" Assuming Khaled Hosseini is a naturalized U.S. citizen and complied with the law, Afghanistan may or may not consider such a voluntary renunciation of citizenship to be valid. So the question remains open, does anyone have a citation to Afghan law on point? "be deprived of" and "voluntarily renounce" are not necessaruily the same thing. --Bejnar (talk) 21:48, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
18 U.S.C. Section 1448 (2) applies only in the United States, it doesn't affect the laws of Afghanistan. According to Chapter 3 and 4 of the Constitution of Afghanistan only the president and government employees are prevented from possessing citizenship of a foreign country.[3] Khalid Hossieni is not in the government business so there's no Afghan law that prevents him from having duel citizenship. Afghan law requires that a person must establish record of father's Afghan nationality in order for them to be considered a citizen, Hossieni's history establishes this.--AYousefzai (talk) 00:20, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
Since you have pointed to no Afghan law that would make his renunciation of citizenship invalid, it must be deemed effective. --Bejnar (talk) 06:18, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

I have removed "ethnicity" from the info-box, because a) we do not really know what ethnic group he belongs to, and b) because "Afghan" - by modern definition - is not an ethnicity. Even from a historical point of view, it would be wrong, because Khaled Hosseini is most likely not a Pashtun. Tajik (talk) 04:51, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Oh yes? One point is sure. He is not a Pashtun nor a Hazara. He is an ethnic Tajik, a Qizilbash from Herat whose grand-father and father were related to the royal house of the Musahibans. The family moved during the mid of the 70s to Kabul. He is a Tajik. Everyone who ever met Khaled and know his novels, understand his works as part of his life´s mirror. For more information I would invite you on Khawaran.com and Khorasanzameen.net. Look for the article about secretly Pashtun bashing in his novel The Kite Runner.

Ps: in the video he does not say he is an Afghan. He just says he is from Afghanistan! That is a difference. For more accurate answers to his ethnicity I´d like you to listen THIS--188.107.12.104 (talk) 21:04, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Hosseini have no the Afghan cititenship, only his father, aside from his american one. If he has no Afghan citizenship, he does not define himself as an Afghan or even as Pashtu as most do, how could he become an Afghan by citizen and Pashtun by nationality? That´s what Ketabtoon want to propagate here, falsefully. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.107.12.104 (talk) 21:13, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

For further information on his ethnicity: A Critical Response to the Pashtun Bashing in The Kite Runner, by Afghan Rahmat Rabi Zirakyar

I read its first Riverhead paperback edition (2004) in November of 2009. Its hardcover was published a year earlier in 2003. He is culturally a non-Pashtun but ethnically a half-Pashtun: Dr. Hosseini’s mother, grandmother and great-grandmother belong to the Mohammadzai nobility of Pashtun heritage. Also, his aunt is the mother of Prince Mostapha Zaher, the grandson of King Zaher Shah( 1914-2007).

Tough Zirakyar does not represant any kind of evidances of his claim (and Hosseini´s family is unrelated to any Pashtun family, an info from his own mouth), he is only through his mother, if the claim of Zirakyar would have been true but which isn´t, a Pashtun, but from father he´s either a Tajik, Uzbek, Hazara, Pashai, Arab or an Indian. An Indian and Arab origine for him can be excluded, because his mother-tongue is Persian and he belong to the greater Iranian culture of Afghanistan (Tajik, Hazara, Uzbek, Pashais, Nuristanis). His family through his father was not a Jihaadi and thus is not a new-comer. Now we have to deal with a possible Uzbek, Hazara, Nuristani, Pashai or Tajik origine. A Pashai and Nuristani can be excluded because his ancestors are from Herat, native Persianspeakers, belonging to the next greater Persianspeaking communities, Hazaras and Tajiks, and representing the elitist layer or the upper middle-class of Afghanistan and particularly of Kabul which is made by Tajiks exclusivly. Now only the Hazara community remains. He is not Asian-looking and does not belong to a lower class than the upper class of Afghanistan´s privilegded population and thus he only can be a Tajik, even if his mother´s a Pashtun, but belonging to the Tajik culture, language and ethnicity through his father. In Afghanistan, it´s only count from where your father is from, not mother, girl-friend or whatever. If your father is a Hazara than you are a Hazara even if your mother is a Pashtun or Tajik. Dostum´s mother is a Pashtun but is he ever called by anyone as a Pashtun or half-Pashtun? Think about it. Why do you think Zirakyar does not mention his non-Pashtun origine but describes him as culturally as a non-Pashtun? --94.219.196.21 (talk) 13:36, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Kite Runner is based on a true event[edit]

Hazara boy, who was his friend, was raped by a Pashtun man »Oh, ist das Moussa da drüben?« Ich sagte: »Ja.« Er nickte und bemerkte beiläufig – entschuldigen Sie, wenn ich dies wiederhole: »Ich habe ihn den letzten Monat über gefickt.« Mein Bruder und ich wussten nicht, was das bedeutete. Wir fragten herum und fanden es schließlich heraus.. The entire book is a review of his life where Pashtuns as backward and savage people play a special role. Actually, the role of Amir should be a Tajik but he later changed it to a Pashtun to defuse the roles of Pashtuns. Just read the book´s explanation and the links. In his book, the young Ami was a part of himself--94.219.196.21 (talk) 13:55, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Also take in mind what´s the last sentence of the book was I ran. A grown man running with a swarm of screaming children. But I didn’t care. I ran with the wind blowing in my face, and a smile as wide as the Valley of Panjsher on my lips. This is a message--94.219.196.21 (talk) 14:06, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Regardless of whether it was "based on a true event", the novel is not a history book. Fiction can often be based on memories, but that doesn't change its genre. Please stop changing Hosseini's "genre" in the infobox from "fiction" to "history". AtticusX (talk) 20:55, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Minor issue with Categories[edit]

I don't know who added Californian Republican to Khaled Hosseini's categories, but I can't find any sources to back this up. Perhaps a removal should be in order until we find more from Mr. Hosseini on politics?

Note: it's interesting that Mr. Hosseini didn't mention party affiliation when he commented on McCain-Palin's 'lack of moral courage' --Macindows (talk) 05:37, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Agreed. There is nothing in the article to support this category; I have removed it.--ShelfSkewed Talk 13:37, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Merger proposal[edit]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
The result of this discussion was to merge, see final comments below. Tokyogirl79 (talk) 11:52, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

I propose that And the Mountains Echoed be merged into Khaled_Hosseini#Novels. I gave this a little time since there was some coverage in RS, but I think that this is simply WP:TOOSOON for this to merit its own article and that it doesn't really pass WP:NBOOK. I'd normally just redirect this, but considering that it has received some coverage makes me want to have a debate about this rather than just redirecting. If nobody can bring up a good argument otherwise by December 6th, I'm going to merge any pertinent data into the main article for Hosseini and redirect there. Much of this information is already in Hosseini's article and what little we do have so far can easily be summed up in 1-2 sentences.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 10:25, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

  • My main argument is that while we have 5 sources, all of them say the exact same thing and seem to be taken from the same statement/press release. There's really no depth of coverage here since it's all pretty much the same news article but stated in 5 different places. It's just not enough. I figure we redirect for now and merge anything not already in the article, then un-redirect when we have more sourcing.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 10:28, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
  • Comment: Since there are no other comments for or against the merge, I'll go ahead and merge/redirect to the main article here. This is one of those books that will undoubtedly be notable, but isn't at this point in time. The sources out there are all based off of the same source or press release and all state the same thing. It also doesn't help that mentions of the book are fairly brief in nature and if there was just one in-depth source that stated something other than what is the rest of the articles on the page, I'd keep it as it is. I just think it's really too soon for an article. In about a month or two when more sources become available or when a release date is announced then it can be un-redirected.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 11:52, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

The above discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.


Haris or Harris[edit]

Reliable sources, such as The Telegraph in Despair in Kabul, seem to agree that the name of Hosseini's eldest child is "Haris" with only a single "r". --Bejnar (talk) 19:20, 1 June 2013 (UTC)