Talk:Kiel

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City arrangement[edit]

While you secondary speakers of English are all cooling down, maybe you could anglicize the article a little bit better. I changed one title myself. Specifically, exactly what is a "city arrangement"? If you look those words up in an English dictionary you will find perfectly good English meanings for them, except they are never actually used the way they are used here. As another example, we don't speak of the inhabitant statistics, we use population. So, it is the usage I am nagging about.

But, when we look at what we are trying to name, what do we see? We can get a great clickable map showing the districts of Kiel but they are nowhere numbered; furthermore, some districts listed in our article do not appear in the clickable map. Just what are these numbered districts? Like most people, I've never been to Kiel, so I would like to know. American districts don't get numbered, you know, unless you mean zip code. Are we doing things by the number in Kiel? Or what? If someone in on the secret would illuminate us in the article I would appreciate it. Just something to do while you cool down. Thanks.Dave 12:43, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Actually, in my town we have areas like the 9th Ward, and the 5th Municipal District and so on... but I digress. I just renamed that section "Neighborhoods," but I don't really know if that's appropriate. I recognize some of those names like Düsternbrook and Elmschenhagen and Holtenau, but I don't know what legal status they have within the larger city. And I have no idea what those numbers are. Maybe some natives can shed some light on this. — Muffuletta 03:21, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
Thanks, buddy. I would have said Boroughs and districts or Municipal subdivisions but neighborhoods does the trick and is actually usable English. All is clear at a glance now.Dave 04:47, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
Actually, I just translated that from the German Wikipedia article, which I suppose is not usually the best way to source an article. I hope they know what they're talking about. — Muffuletta 01:55, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

12.3.2006 copyedit[edit]

Okay, I've probably angered the Germans, Poles, Kiwis, Minnesotans and Koreans—not to mention members of the Heuer family—but I did a general reorganization of the article. I really hope some people (more knowledgeable than I) can add more material to the Economy section. Surely there's more to talk about than Howaldtswerke. Also there could be more in Buildings and structures, like, I don't know, the Holtenau Locks? Also, it would be good if there were some citations and references. I only added one. Gotta go.... — Muffuletta 03:44, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Population[edit]

We have three different population figures in this one article. There's 233795, for which I've found a reference here; then 229715 which I see here; and 233244, which is cited as being from here, although I can't find the figure. I've also found a 31.12.2004 figure of 233329 here.

Maybe some of the German editors could agree on one figure, since they can better read the sources. For the Kiel article in the German Wikipedia, they seem to have settled on the 229715 figure, but I don't know if they've used the best source. — Muffuletta 13:49, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Transportation[edit]

Perhaps this article should contain some information about the transportation system in Kiel. For example, does Kiel have an airport? What about a subway and train service to the rest of Germany?

Hi, i'm living in Kiel and yes, we have an airport in Kiel-Holtenau. We also have a (in my opinion, I guess it doesn't care for Wikipedia..) good bus system. And all important trains end here, although if you want to move more to the south of Germany, you often have to change the train at Hamburg. --89.27.213.44 (talk) 00:32, 23 February 2008 (UTC)


Hi, although the article states Kiel would be located in the southeast corner of the Baltic Sea, it is actually the southWEST part of the Baltic Sea. :)

Zebrafrosch (talk) 22:44, 12 August 2008 (UTC)


Sources (pirates)[edit]

Hi there! I am a habitant of Kiel and wonder why the article says Kiel was kicked out of the hanseatic league because of harboring pirates. The old hanseatic documents simply says because of acting non conform to the rules of the hanseatic league. On the other hand it is known it happend during the war with denmark which was a war of caper. So it would be very interesting to find a source which says something about the pirates?? Does anyone know? Thank you! BTW: The St. Niclas` Church was destroyed in world war II. What you can see on the photo is a reconstruction. Balder de (talk) 12:06, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

"slave labour"[edit]

The mentioning: "There was also slave labour for the local industry." should be removed. Allies and Russians also used "slaves" i.e. prisoners of war, albeit at time before and after the war. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.153.39.74 (talk) 02:24, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Kieler hafen[edit]

I believe "Kieler hafen" should redirect here, but I'm not sure, and don't know how. ~Eric F 74.60.29.141 (talk) 22:42, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

New Lord Mayor[edit]

There is a new Lord Mayor in Kiel: Ulf Kämpfer (Social Democratic Party of Germany, SPD) Inauguration: April 14th, 2014 Taking office: April 24th, 2014 Source: http://www.kiel.de/rathaus/oberbuergermeister/index.php Please edit the page. Greetings from Kiel - Andy 46.142.185.225 (talk) 16:50, 22 May 2014 (UTC)