Talk:Kimbo Slice

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Bare-knuckle boxing career[1][edit]

Opponent Height Weight Fight Winner
(Big D) 6 ft 1 in 270 #1 Kimbo
Rasta (Dreads) 6 ft 0 in 240 #2 Kimbo
Sean Gannon 6 ft 3 in 265 #3 Gannon
Afro Puff 6 ft 5 in 300 #4 Kimbo
Big Mac 5 ft 11 in 300 #5 Kimbo
Adryan 6 ft 1 in 240 #6 Kimbo
The Bouncer 6 ft 3 in 300 #7 Kimbo
Chico 6 ft 4 in 240 #8 Kimbo

Leondegrance (talk) 04:43, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

he is not a citizen of the bahamas[edit]

They do not have dual citizenship in that country after the age of 21.Whatzinaname (talk) 10:49, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Keep in mind that Wikipedia's policy regarding flags is that a flag is not necessarily used to represent a person's nationality. Rather, it should represent their nationality in a sporting sense. Therefore, if Kimbo intends to fight representing the Bahamas, that would be the appropriate flag. The question is what nation does he feel he represents at each fight. That's a question I don't know the answer to. --TreyGeek (talk) 16:57, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
nobody "represents" a country in professional MMA. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.190.31.229 (talk) 12:43, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
That argument means that all flags should be removed from next to MMA fighters' names. From the Wikipedia Manual of Style on the use of flags: "Flags should never indicate the player's nationality in a non-sporting sense". --TreyGeek (talk) 12:46, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
Kimbo fights out of the US, reps Florida and is not a citizen of the Bahamas. He'll keep the American flag in his profile. Case closed unless new evidence is brought to light. BrendanFrye (talk) 14:07, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
I agree in keeping the American flag for now (in lieu of my preference of removing all flags). However, to play devil's advocate do we have a reliable source to show that he "reps Florida" or the United States in his fights? He does have the flag of the Bahamas on his mouth piece; how can we be sure that he represents the US and not the Bahamas (again, playing devil's advocate)?
It doesn't matter. Many of the sports figures in wikipedia have devoted fans far more interested in pushing their given POV than adding useful information. Hence most of these "flag wars" and natuionality wars are usually completely bankrupt of any sort logical thinking. See things like Fedor, who is ethnically Ukrainian but constantly refered on wikipedia as "russian". So we just do what makes the most sense. Kimbo lives in the USA, and only holds citizenship in the USA, and no one is delegated to fight for a country like the olympics or some such, so there is really no argument for the Bahamian flag, only arguments against.Whatzinaname (talk) 11:15, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Locked Down link[edit]

In the Filmography section, Locked Down links to a single from the Norwegian band Turbonegro. --82.171.13.139 (talk) 23:32, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done Fixed. Thanks for pointing it out. --TreyGeek (talk) 23:55, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Petruzelli fight controversy[edit]

I was quite surprised and a little bit amazed to read the following extract from a Bas Rutten interview:

“He just turned into a different guy, he didn’t need to do the things that I told him to do,” explained Bas in a recent interview with Fighters Only Magazine. “He wasn’t going to go to the ground, you know? The day before the [Petruzelli] fight, I told him I wanted to go over heel hooks and escapes, and he said “Nah, its not going to go to the ground

“I said ‘Ha, I like that attitude – but what if it does go to the ground?’ but he said ‘Its not going to go’.(...)

The above is quoted from an article of fiveouncesofpain.com: http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/06/20/bas-rutten-has-zero-respect-for-kimbo-slice/

Wouldn't it be relevant to mention that interview when describing the controversy surrounding the Petruzelli fight? I mean this, in addition to the comments Petruzelli made before backing them down, would certainly make it harder to give Slice the benefit of the doubt...

I could see adding the following to the article: In an interview to Fighter's Only magazine, recounting a conversation between him and Kimbo, his trainer Bas Rutten declared that Slice repeatedly refused to train ground grappling movements during his training session on the day preceding the fight, stating multiple times that the fight wouldn't go to the ground.

I might do the edit myself if there are no overwhelming objections.ThorinMuglindir (talk) 00:42, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Hum finally such an edit would probably not be fair in the big picture. Since yesterday I saw other Rutten interviews where he basically states the opinion that the Petruzelli fight being fixed to not go to the ground is unthinkable. Personally speaking, I still think his declarations on Fighters Only hint at something, though. ThorinMuglindir (talk) 12:00, 6 July 2013 (UTC)