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"King Seesar (キングシーサー) or King Shisa(most commonly and inaccurately known among fans as "King Caesar" due to the similarity to the name of famed ruler Julius Caeser)"
Hardy-har-har. No, actually. King Seesar is known among fans as "King Caesar" because that's Toho's official English spelling. The Official Godzilla Compendium, the DVD case of Godzilla: Final Wars, they both use "Caesar" as the spelling (as does the film's ending credits).
- I would not give any credence whatsoever to Tri-Star's dumbed-down subtitles, which are verbatim to their dubbing. If the character is a Shisa, then he is obviously King Shisa and not King Caesar. --Scottandrewhutchins 04:02, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
- I (yes, that was me) didn't say anything about TriStar's subtitles (which, yes, can be atrocious), I said the film's END CREDITS. Those are done by Toho, not TriStar (neither is the dubbing, for that matter). "Caesar" is also used, like I said, in the Official Godzilla Compendium, which was published long before TriStar released either Final Wars or Mechagodzilla '74 on DVD. Hell, it was published before Godzilla 2000 was even filmed. -- MegaZeo
I agree. Shisa is more accurate to the mythology behind the character and sounds somewhat better anyway. 1 vote for Shisa.
- Get it to your thick skull, people call him Caesar, not the stupid Shisa name. Your the only person who call him Shisa. I warned you once to knock it off with the Shisa crap or I'd have a administrator block you. Deal with Caesar, Shisa is a crappy name and no one calls him Shisa except geeky nerds who act like immature little children like you're acting Scottandrewhutchins. "Prove it", there are things that prove his name his Caesar, like Toho Kingdom and numerous sites. So stop with the Shisa crap! No one likes the dumb name. --Naruto134 00:00, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
- The fifteen year-old fanboy with no understanding of Japanese is the only one who would called the name Shisa "stupid" or "crappy". "Caesar" is a ludicrous name for the character, considering he is a Shisa, which is clearly how his name is pronounced in the song. Toho Kingdom is a fan site and proves nothing. Also, Caesar in Japanese is spelled "カエサル", not "シーサー".  Also, one of your reverts was to "King Ceasar" [sic], which also impacts your credibility in this situation. --Scottandrewhutchins 20:27, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
- "Caesar" is a ludicrous name for the character Yeah? And Invasion of Astro-Monster is a ludicrous title for Monster Zero, but guess what? That's what the upcoming DVD is titled (check [] if you don't believe me). Or is Toho wrong about their own creation again? Shisa, which is clearly how his name is pronounced in the song. And Mothra's name is clearly pronounced "Mosura" in her song. What's your point? This isn't about preference, because honestly, I prefer the "Seesar" spelling. I mean, short of having a meeting with some Toho representative, I don't know what you want/need to be convinced it's "Caesar." Or are you saying that Toho is stupid/ludicrous/whatever for naming him that? -- MegaZeo
- I'm not convinced it's not some hack copywriter writing the back covers of DVDS that is coming up with these spellings. As for Invasion of Astro-Monster, yes it's a stupid title, and not a translation of the Japanese title at all, but at least that's what it says on the Japanese VHS tape from c. 1995. I'm not sure these other names have a history pre-TriStar. --Scottandrewhutchins 14:36, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
- I guess you missed what I wrote above, so I'll repost it for you: "I didn't say anything about TriStar's subtitles (which, yes, can be atrocious), I said the film's END CREDITS. Those are done by Toho, not TriStar (neither is the dubbing, for that matter). "Caesar" is also used, like I said, in the Official Godzilla Compendium, which was published long before TriStar released either Final Wars or Mechagodzilla '74 on DVD. Hell, it was published before Godzilla 2000 was even filmed." -- MegaZeo
- See? Not everyone calls him Shisa. So enough with the Shisa its getting old now. Turn the page's name back. --Naruto134 00:00, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
His [word not allowed] name is King Caeser. EVERY SINGLE TRUE GODZILLA FAN CALLS HIM KING CAESER! Oh, wow he looks like Shisa or whatever the hell. That's like saying Godzilla's article should be 'Giant Lizard' becauses he looks like a Giant Lizard. --JohnVMaster 00:01, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
- Bull. I haven't seen that spelling EVER used pre-Internet, indeed, I've never seen that spelling pre-TriStar's issues of the new series. The most common spelling I have seen is Seesar, but that doedn't make it any more correct than Caesar, which you're not even spelling correctly. It's not like calling Godzilla "giant lizard". It's like calling Godzilla "Gojira" (which is the pronunciation used by the guys in the helicopter in King Kong vs. Godzilla in the undubbed version), and in this case the "Caesar" spelling seems to significantly postdate the original film, as though you are deciding "Gigantis" is the correct name for Godzilla, or "Monster X" is the correct name for Jiger. --Scottandrewhutchins 14:39, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
<----- There ya go. King CAESAR's official character logo, complete with trademark. There's your proof- the monster's official name is King Caesar. Doesn't matter what they used to call him, or what the Japanese call him, this is the English wikipedia- what his english name is now, according to the company that created him, is the name we use. Now can we quit it with this stupid edit war?
K00bine 00:03, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah, seriously. It's getting everyone annoyed. --Naruto134 00:00, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
It was requested that this article be renamed but there was no consensus for it be moved. But, wouldn't you know, the history's somewhere else, so it looks like I'm going to be moving pages anyway. Given that, and given that until the page was moved from "King Caesar" the first time, there weren't any move wars, it's going back there, and anyone who wants it changed can try to find consensus for changing it. Our naming conventions do not concern themselves too much with which is the most correct transliteration, or when names came into fashion. It's an absurd name, but "King Caesar" is more common than "King Shisa", and there it will stay. --Stemonitis 17:16, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
I erased this: "The theme song for King Caesar, "Kingu Shisa", has a tune very simalar to "Chim Chim Cher-ee" from Mary Poppins. However, Disney fiercely protects it's copyrighted subjects, making the last statement questionable." First because it's not relevant, but also because it doesn't sound at all like the Mary Poppins song (or not enough to be a problem) and because of "last statement questionable". Why do we need to make these kind of things up ? - Cyrus 13:18, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
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"King Caesar is almost entirely mechanical?"
"While King Caesar looks entirely organic, the reality is King Caesar is almost entirely mechanical, his body is shaped by metal frames and his pelvic area holds two giant energy containers"
PLEASE cite the evidence for this and encompassing statements. The stated [in film] supernatural origin and nature of the creature would seem to be in conflict with any cybernetic aspect, or need for one. The passage seems like fanboy-ish daydreaming, so if this isn't substantiated it should be removed. --22.214.171.124 (talk) 17:14, 2 July 2011 (UTC)