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|Kirby (character) was one of the Sports and recreation good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.|
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The main image should be updated to Kirby's appearance in Kirby Wii (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/e3_2011/04/kirby_wii/index.html) -Newimagekirby (talk) 20:57, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- I changed it, myself. I hope I did it correctly... --Newimagekirby (talk) 20:02, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
To begin with, let's define what it is that you're aiming for. WikiProject Video games has a fair amount of GAs on characters, as shown by this list. One of our more recent promotions was Glass Joe. Lara Croft is probably the highest quality GA-class character article, since its main contributor, User:Guyinblack25, has consistently tried to get it to featured status. Because of that, it looks more like a FA than a GA. Anyway, I think you should start by taking a look at both Glass Joe and Lara Croft. Kirby will probably be closer to Glass Joe in structure and length, but, if you examine Lara Croft, you'll get a sense of how far the idea of a character article can be pushed.
Now, on to this article. It's rough. Very rough. For starters, the article has only 27 references, which is not nearly enough for a character this famous. Worse still, many of these references don't appear to qualify as reliable sources. Here are the ones that seem worth removing: VG Cats, Nintendo-Power.de, Nippon Export, A-suma, this thing and this (last one might be usable; I'm not sure). The "Kirby's Rainbow Resort" links appear to be fansites, which are generally to be avoided. Relying on them would probably be detrimental in the long run, particularly if you're forced to remove them during a GA review.
After you've done this, you need to analyze which sections of the article most need attention. Personally, I would start with the "Concept and creation" and "Reception" sections. Unlike the other sections, which suffer from bloat, these are underdeveloped. Hacking away at content is often easier than generating it from nothing, so we'll start with the hard part. But, before any writing takes place, you need to find reliable research material. Start by reading some of the material that the article already uses for references. Other Kirby articles may also have usable stuff. Digging around, I found this and this, which seem decent enough. You might also try searching through our reference library for Kirby-related material. The older Nintendo Power issues, in particular, had several features and reviews of the early Kirby games. If you still don't have enough material for a section, try asking for help at the WikiProject Fictional characters talk page. Those guys may be able to provide you with reference material.
Once you've researched, then it's time to expand and tighten the section, citing your sources as you go. Use Glass Joe's creation section as a model when necessary. Anyway, if you need assistance here and there with the actual writing or reference-finding, let me know. I'm happy to help, even though my experience with character articles is limited at best. You might also ask WPVG member User:New Age Retro Hippie, who wrote Glass Joe, if he'd be interested in helping or giving pointers. Character articles are one of his specialities.
That took awhile to type. If you have any questions, ask them here. I'll answer them when I get the chance. Once you've started in on the article, I'll continue my review. The key thing right now is finding and exploiting reliable sources, which will deal one of the biggest reasons the article was delisted. Don't worry about prose quality yet; that comes at the end. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 05:17, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for the input, and it really helps. I see that its been a couple of months since you last spoke on this subject and I wanted to touch base on what should NOW be tweaked. I still see that the "Main Series" and "Reception" sections could use some work on them, along with still trying to get more sources that are decent. Just figured I would ask of your new opinion. I am compiling sources as we speak and look forward to your input. Sephiroth878 (talk) 19:01, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
I have heard that in order for Kirby to be round looking in Kirby 64, they had to cut the polygon count from the background environment. This would be fantastic development information if anybody can find a source. Blake (Talk·Edits) 22:29, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
Images and Improvements
I'm trying to improve this article, as it's quite troublesome for such a famous character. I'm focusing on the text, but one thing it could use is more images if possible. I think it at least needs an image of Kirby with a copy ability, such as Sword or Fire or Ice as they're most iconic. In addition, an image of an earlier version from Dream Land or Adventure would look nice in the Concept section. If we're feeling greedy, his Smash Wii U art can go in that section and an anime picture can be included. I don't know of the issues with that, though.
I rewrote the lead, but likely will do it again to make it larger, and removed a lot of OR. There's lots of manuals and interviews to go through now for sources. Just try to keep the article narrow and not feel like every detail is necessary. Scarlettail (talk) 03:21, 16 August 2014 (UTC)