Talk:Kiryat Yam

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moved from article - perhaps needs rewording to make sense

the canidath which is lead the surrveys is Shmuel siso which was the meir before but it for a job as the israeli console in the USA.

google earth note controversy

Everywhere I look it is simply stated that a google earth user added the note about the alleged old arab village. But is it true or not?? Is it a controversy because the israelis don't like the thought of it, or is it simply not true? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.215.252.82 (talk) 15:07, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

According to Israel, the town was founded in 1945, before the State of Israel was founded, and before the arabs ran away.

According to the British-sponsored Palestine Exploration Fund (PEF) map from 1880, Arab Ghawarina is a region east of Acre populated with Arabs and there is no evidence of any civilization in the area marked by Darby. Faceman1 (talk) 11:25, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Correct, there is nothing in that map to indicate settlements in the place where Kiryat Yam was built. Another Arab locality named in this regard is Jidru. The residents of Jidru were evicted in the 1920s when the land was sold by the absentee owner. But was too far to the east (on the east side of Kiryat Bialik), and too early in time, to be related to Kiryat Yam. Zero^talk 03:54, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

This article is relevant. Zero^talk 06:32, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

cleanup

• Is it reasonable to include that it is predicted that the small cities will merge? Is it encyclopedic to prognosticate?
• Should this be tagged as an Israel-geo-stub?

What happened in 1945?

The article (based on a source which is dubious) says that Kiryat Yam was founded in 1945. However, the Palestine Post of May 12, 1939, has an article "Kiryat Yam - A New Haifa Suburb" which describes well-advanced construction work for "a new seaside residential suburb". After that date the suburb is mentioned regularly and I cannot locate anything special that happened in 1945. I believe more research needs to be done to get this straight. Btw, PP is readable here. Zero^talk 04:03, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

This says founded in 1940, and this says founded in 1941. Zero^talk 06:35, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for the interesting information. I have limited sources on the matter, but both agree that Kiryat Yam was founded as an initiative by the Gav Yam company and member of the Jewish Brigade, following World War II. My theory is that one of the other Krayot was called Kiryat Yam, although right now this is original research. I will attempt to find more sources some other time. —Ynhockey ^(Talk) 07:48, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

The book of Glass mentions a 1946 development at Kiryat Yam built on a different land holding than the 1939-40 development p229; maybe that's it. Zero^talk 08:52, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Can Gav Yam be the the same as Bayside Land Corporation? I'm sure it was the BLC that did the development since for years the Pal. Post was full of advertisements from the BLC for houses and apartments in Kiryat Yam. Zero^talk 08:30, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

To answer my own question, yes, they are the same. Do we need to verify they were called Gav Yam in 1940 before we can call them Gav Yam in the article? Zero^talk 08:36, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

We can call them the Bayside Land Corporation, if that is the official English name. I was not aware that they had an English name. —Ynhockey ^(Talk) 18:45, 23 October 2009 (UTC)