Talk:Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross

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I added information from feldgrau.com/rk.html. Filippo Argenti 22:17, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

First pictures of KC w/ Diamonds didn't load for me[edit]

Everything looked fine, can others view? Historian932 (talk) 04:12, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

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Delete this please[edit]

"meaning a no-win-situation e.g. taking the CO's daughter out to a prom or having dinner with an inspecting general." not funny...89.35.62.12 (talk) 05:47, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

under the same general idea, vandalism in the first section's heading reads "wikipedia is evil they are fascist oppresors of free thought long live produde94". i dont know what the original heading was so i wont delete it just yet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.89.134.51 (talk) 19:43, 22 November 2009 (UTC)


points[edit]

...and Luftwaffe pilots could qualify for accumulating 20 "points" [with one point being awarded for shooting down a single-engine plane, two points for a twin-engine plane, and three for a four-engine plane, with all points being doubled at night].

Hallo, my name ist Rainer and i am from Germany. The information in the artice about the system of points is not correct. The german Luftwaffe developed a system of points because of the american combat boxes of B-17-airplanes. Ordinarily a german figther could not shot down a B-17 by the first attack. After the first attack - both the german figther and the B-17 or B-24-bomber were damaged. The damaged german fighter returned to his airport ( or craches ) and the B-17 felt out of the formation. The next german fighter attacked the damaged bomber and achieves an aerial victory. Some german fighter pilot says this was an injustice. The first fighter-pilot was the hero, because he attacks the whole formation of bombers but he recieves nothing. The second fighter pilot who has waited behind the combat box for shooting down damaged bombers achieves an aerial victory. Because of this injustice a system of points was developed.

  • 3 points for shooting down a bomber at the first attack ( bomber must have been flown in the combat box )
  • 2 points for attacking a bomber which was damaged by this attack and fell out of combat box because of this attack, this was called "Herausschuss"
  • 1 point for shooting down a damaged bomber, which flew behind an combat-box


There was no connection between the number of the engines and the number of the points.


Excuse please, my English is not perfect.

Viele Grüsse Rainer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.150.0.78 (talk) 06:04, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Overly detailed article[edit]

I was going to drop the

on this article as it really does have a lot of very detailed information that may not be overly useful for the general reader. However, I thought I'd ask for the opinions of others first. Londonclanger (talk) 20:41, 1 February 2014 (UTC)