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WP:INDIA Banner/Tripura Addition[edit]

Note: {{WP India}} Project Banner with Tripura workgroup parameters was added to this article talk page because the article falls under Category:Tripura or its subcategories. Should you feel this addition is inappropriate , please undo my changes and update/remove the relavent categories to the article -- Amartyabag TALK2ME 10:50, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Tripura > Twipra[edit]

Some changes to names and links were made by an enthusiast for the ancient Twipra Kingdom. I have corrected the links that needed to point to the modern Indian state of Tripura, but recent changes to the historical section ought to be looked at as well. Andrew Dalby 14:36, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Kokborok Counting[edit]

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Requested move[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was moved to Kokborok per usage. (Kok borok returns nothing much on google search so we'll go un-spaced.) --rgpk (comment) 16:48, 6 April 2011 (UTC) Borok languageKokborok — This article has been subject to recent undiscussed moves to various titles. Title of article should follow article text usage, article source usage (e.g., Ethnologue / ISO), external link usage, and subarticles. Current title appears to be original research.-- —  AjaxSmack  19:57, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Several possible titles include Kokborok (with or without space or hyphen), Kokborok language (the former stable title before a recent undiscussed move), Tripuri language, Borok language. Subarticles currently include Kokborok grammar, Kokborok literature, Script issues of Kokborok. —  AjaxSmack  19:57, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

  • Semi-Oppose per WP:Naming conventions (languages): "Borok" = Borok people or Borok language. (Though the usage of Kok, Kog, or Kak is so common that we may want to make this an exception.) In any case it is normally written as two words, or at least hyphenated. But better "Kok Borok" than "Kok Borok language", which would be redundant. Is it relevant that "Kok Borok" also means Tippera[1]? — kwami (talk) 23:23, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
Do you have any sources using the current title? Nothing in WP:Naming conventions (languages) advocates the use of an unattested name for a language. —  AjaxSmack  02:44, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
"Borok" is the name of the people. Many sources use it. Using the name of a people for their language is productive in English, as in "Baganda language" alongside Luganda, "Arab language" alongside Arabic, etc. It's nearly always an option. — kwami (talk) 08:01, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
Despite the name of the people, I haven't seen many (if any) sources for "Borok langauge" though. Your example choice of "Baganda language" is strange since the article is located Luganda, the common English name, and "Baganda language" is not even (as of now) a redirect. Likewise, "Arab language" is not an article title because it's not the common name of the language. —  AjaxSmack  00:21, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, there isn't much published on Borok. The fact that WP does not use a name for a title does not make it "strange", though. Baganda language may not be common, but Arab language gets 9000 hits at GBooks. My point is simply that you can almost always use the demonym and tack on 'language'. It's hard to think of examples, since generally English uses the demonym as the only term for the language. — kwami (talk) 01:08, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Not convinced that the current title Borok langage needs attestation, it seems to me to be an acceptable title just as a natural English construction. The question is, can we find a better one? If Kokborok is ambiguous as claimed above, then the answer seems to be no. Andrewa (talk) 18:35, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

"Not convinced that Borok langage needs attestation". Why not? If it doesn't appear in any sources, isn't that then original research? And how is "Kokborok (language)" ambiguous? I can't find any evidence of usage of the name for any other language except in one Ethnologue list. —  AjaxSmack  18:05, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
If "Kok" means language then Kokborok (language) is redundant. Naorem Sanajaoba's Manipur, past and present discusses the Borok/Tripuri people at p.13 and 331, and the Tripuri language (now Kokborok) at p.324. It seems clear that the article on the language belongs at Kokborok, with redirects from Borok language and from Tripuri (language). If there are no strong objections to this by this time tomorrow, the discussion should be closed. It's long overdue.LeadSongDog come howl! 22:46, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
If we're going to move, I think it should be to Kok Borok. The redirect should be from Tripuri language. — kwami (talk) 22:57, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
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