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According to CIA Factbook, Population[edit]

Ethnic groups: Albanians 92%, other (Serb, Bosniak, Gorani, Roma, Turk, Ashkali, Egyptian) 8% (2008) [3] --12:45, 27 November 2011

Move to 'Republic of Kosovo'[edit]

In the opening section it says that this country is called (in bold) The Republic of Kosovo. So, since the Kosovo region is not what is being discussed, and Kosovo (region) has an entry of its own, IMHO it should be moved to 'The Republic of Kosovo'. The Kosovo page should IMHO lead to this page, and then the neutral disambiguation will be clear. A very small change will be needed to the opening sentences of the article, which are currently totally unclear.

I take no side in current politics there, and have nothing to do with the region, besides learning of the fate of my fellow Jews there in WWI and WWII, and the leftover tiny community there today. פשוט pashute ♫ (talk) 11:27, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

What you suggest was the status some months ago, but it was changed after extensive discussion, as you can see on this talkpage above and the latest archive page. The thing is that Kosovo (region) in fact no longer has an entry of its own; it was merged back here a few weeks ago.r Fut.Perf. 11:34, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

Flag[edit]

As WP:INFOBOXFLAG uses this article as an example of where the infobox should not have a flag, I've removed it. Obviously it should not be replaced without an agreed change to our guidance. Dougweller (talk) 09:34, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

I think the guideline may be a bit out of step with the state of the article here. It is of course correct in saying use of flags can be problematic when it produces too much disagreement, and in fact there was a lot of disagreement over it some years ago, but since the recent moves and reshufflings of the article I don't think there have been any objections to it, and as long as the intro text is uncontentious the way it is now – quite explicitly equating the territory with the republic representing it –, and as long as the infobox is clearly marked as being about the republic, I don't see how the use of the flag of that republic in it could be contentious. You might also say that the recent political developments of the Brussels Agreement (2013) have changed the situation significantly. Since even Serbia itself now recognizes the existence of the Kosovan administration as the legitimate administrative representation of the territory (though not its full sovereignty as an independent state), it can't have objections against the use of that administration's flag in representing it either.
Incidentally, it is of course not very useful to remove the flag but leave the identical coat of arms in. Fut.Perf. 09:53, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
It's out of step with Abkhazia too, where specific discussions have been had on the infobox, and the two are now inconsistent with every other country article we have. Was there a discussion to add those caveats in, or was it just something User:Dr. Blofeld boldly added? CMD (talk) 10:14, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
There was a big lot of discussion about the guideline back in mid-2012, around the time when the addition was made [4] (now in archive 11 of the talkpage), but I can't find either "Kosovo" nor "Abkhasia" mentioned there. In any case, I think it was quite sound advice at the time, given the amount of chaos over infoboxes we had seen here previously. The reference ot "human geography articles" in the guideline probably also meant its author was thinking of the separate "region" article, withe the "republic" article split out, as was then the case. Fut.Perf. 10:26, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
This isn't a solely a "human geography article" anymore, this article is also about a political entity which governs Kosovo. I fail to see why this article should suffer in encyclopedic quality because Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Icons is out of date. It seems a very stupid, irrational and illogical reason to remove the flag, I'm going to be WP:BOLD and restore the flag and let common sense prevail.
Also WP:INFOBOXFLAG as about flagicons in infoboxes, it isn't about flags. The Flagicon for Kosovo is {{flagicon|Kosovo}} which is not included in the infobox, nor is any flagicon template. IJA (talk) 10:52, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
It is specifically about flags: "For the purposes of this section of the guideline icons refers to flags and similar images unless otherwise stated". Now I'm sorry if in following the guideline I've upset people, but can we please fix the guideline then? Dougweller (talk) 11:41, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
(edit conflict) I've just removed it from the MOS page, citing this discussion. The preceding sentence says that consensus of editors at that article will determine whether flag use in the infobox is preferred or not, so the rest was pretty much redundant. I understand the rationale, and maybe it was a sensible thing to do, but it simply ended up at odds with the practice. No such user (talk) 11:45, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
That's fine, thanks. Dougweller (talk) 11:52, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
The "human geography" phrase may be related to my frustration that so many articles on rivers and ravines and other pieces of natural geography get covered with a layer of modern nationalist fetishes. So, you could blame me for that wording. The last time I climbed a mountain in the real world, it didn't have a national flagicon and stub template at the summit; the mountain had been there for 180 million years, but that country's flag was only drawn twenty years ago. bobrayner (talk) 18:13, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Tourism?[edit]

I would like to know why there is no tourism subheading.I have gathered pictures of many places around Kosovo attracting tourists and have information regarding them,and there is no availability to edit that section.I acknowledge the fact that people could write inappropriate things,but some who are trusted should have the chance to enhance the article. --Nixious6 (talk) 19:36, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

There's an entire article dedicated to the topic, which is completely open to editing. CMD (talk) 20:33, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Communist Yugoslavia?[edit]

Surely you mean either Socialist or Soviet? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.130.163.10 (talk) 09:27, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

No, we mean Communist. As in "ruled by the Communist Party". Yes, technically, no society has ever actually reached the status of communist society, but that was the term used to refer to the Soviet Union, Eastern Europe, etc. Oh, and "soviet" would be even more wrong than you are trying to coyly insinuate that communist is, as no portion of Yugoslavia was ever part of the Soviet Union. --Khajidha (talk) 18:06, 15 July 2014 (UTC)