Talk:Krum

= Legacy?

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I think that the role of Krum as the first Bulgarian legislator is too neglected. The legacy part should be enlarget or a subtitles called " internal policy" or somewhat should be made. A list of the laws should be published.It can also include the Avar legend.According to it after coquering the Avars Khan Krum asked some of the prisoners-of-law about the reasons for the fall of their state and their answers gave him the idea for creating laws,common for Bulgars and Slavs.Also Krum is the first to admisnistrate the Bulgarian state,dividing it into ten comitopuli. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vitosha (talk • contribs) 12:38, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Very good article. I just would like to point out a slight lack of coherence in the way the places are named. If it is being used Constantinople and not Istambul, shouldn't it be said Mesemvria instead of Nessebar? Since obviously Nessebar is less known than Istambul, maybe to avoid confussion it could be written like this: "Bulgarians attacked Mesemvria (now Nessebar)."

History lover.

Dates?

What does this mean? "from after 796/ before 803 to 814" Someone who knows about this may want to edit! Isoxyl 18:41, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

• I too was confused by this. Hu Gadarn 14:48, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Oh oh, the strange dates has returned. Can anyone tell me what this means:"from after 796 before 803 to 814"? This needs an edit but I don't even know what this means and thus I cannot edit this. Thanks, Hu Gadarn 22:47, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

I will explain that: In 796 his predecessor Kardam was last mentioned and in 803 there were the first records of Krum. This is why the historians argue for the exact year of Krum's succession to the throne, but it is usually accepted the years 802 or 803. My own opinion is 803. If you want to, I may correct it and write 803. --Gligan 19:32, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Chronology

I also found the article somewhat confusing. There is very little context or preface before we jump right into the action. Also, there isn't even a link to the Battle of Pliska. Odd. Hu Gadarn 14:48, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

"Influence in literature" needs editing

I think the "influence in literature" section contains a highly dubious information. It claims that Krum was the prototype for Shakespeare's Prospero (and some other characters of other authors) and points to a Bulgarian web page as a source. Being a Bulgarian myself I know all too well that local historiographs engage in embellishments (mostly minor, but still annoying). I researched on Google and failed to locate any source of information other than the mentioned web page and its derivatives. I doubt that Shakespeare would know that much of an ancient ruler of an obscure (at that time non-existing) state. I further don't believe that if true this fact would remain known only to the authors of the Bulgarian web page. In addition, it was never mentioned during any course in Bulgarian history or literature which I have had. Finally there is grave spelling mistake - the name of Gryphius is given as "Grifius" wich further undermines the authority of the source. I recommend deleting this info.

I tried to edit out this part but for some reason it remains unchanged. What's the matter? I am new to wikipedia I must be doing something wrong. Can you help me on it?

Any maps?

Can we have some maps of the territory of the Bulgarian Empire under Krum please?

Krum today

I concur with te removal of the "Krum today" section (as per the query from an unregistered user). This material has no value here. Hu Gadarn 19:34, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

crap

I delete some of it. I'm sorry. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.225.206.193 (talk) 20:17, 21 February 2007 (UTC).

WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Tag & Assess 2008

Article reassessed and graded as start class. --dashiellx (talk) 18:18, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Family History

"Krum was described and potrayed by the Byzantine chronists as a light-hairеd man with light eyes, especially taking into consideration that there is no evidence for the existence of blond people on the Balkans till the arrival of the Slavs."

What kind of nonsense is this? No body knows whether people were blond or not specifically, so how can you say that all Balkan people are brunettes. In addition ancient Greek texts describe the Thracians as being typical Europeans, a mixture of brunettes, blonds, and redheads. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.106.10.82 (talk) 03:36, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Blond and light-eyed inhabitants on the Balkans

This: "a light-hairеd man with light eyes, especially taking into consideration that there is no evidence for the existence of blond people on the Balkans till the arrival of the Slavs."

is a racist or a rather ethnic discriminatory remark, showing little knowledge and understanding of what migration and the shape of an ethnic group or a nation are. All Slavs are not blond, just like all other type of Caucasians are not brunettes. Also, this sounds like the Turkic theory of the origin of the Bulgars that is very dubious in in itself, not to mention the fact that Turks too were a good mixture of everything. I am about to remove this part in a few days unless someone has something reasonable to say about it. I find it insulting. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.228.42.158 (talk) 20:12, 6 January 2010 (UTC)