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Pronunciation correct?[edit]

I might be wrong, but [ku:'bu:ntu:] seems odd since normally one would put the 'n' at the end of the second syllable instead of at the start of the third one before the 't' - that is, in the Western languages I'm familiar with. I would suggest changing it to [ku:'bun:tu:], but since I'm not certain on this one (since I'm not entirely familiar with the syntax used nor do I know anything about the language(s) the word originally comes from) I'll leave it up to someone who knows for sure.

- JoepvL (talk) 12:54, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

EDIT: The Ubuntu and Xubuntu pages use the same notation - which still looks strange to me (though, again, that doesn't mean it's wrong). —Preceding unsigned comment added by JoepvL (talkcontribs) 13:10, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

The colons that were there before, and the symbols that I replaced them with, are not syllable separators but rather markers of vowel length. Ntsimp (talk) 19:26, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
Ah, thanks very much for clearing that up. I can't say I think this method of notation is very user-friendly - but then again, neither can I think of anything that would make it clear quickly without getting into unnecessary and unrelated details on basically any page that would require a similar notation. So I guess I'll just have to trust Wikipedia's judgement on this. Thanks again for the clarification! JoepvL (talk) 23:24, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Minor Error[edit]

I have never edited wikipedia. But in the beginning it says:

"Kubuntu is derived from Ubuntu with a K added for KDE. Kubuntu means "towards humanity" in Bemba, "friendly spirit" in Mizo, and "free" (as in 'free of charge') in Kirundi, and is pronounced /kùbúntú/ (koo-BOON-too).[3]"

When really it is "Ubuntu" that means "towards humanity." Kubuntu is a fictional word. This should be more clear. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.82.9.92 (talk) 22:41, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Kubuntu and Ubuntu websites say otherwise:

"What does Kubuntu mean?

It means "towards humanity" in Bemba.
Coincidently it also means free (as in beer) in Kirundi, spoken in Burundi.

Kubuntu is pronounced "koo-boon-too"." [1]

"What does Ubuntu mean?
Ubuntu is an African word meaning 'Humanity to others', or 'I am what I am because of who we all are'. The Ubuntu distribution brings the spirit of Ubuntu to the software world." [2]

mihhkel (talk) 09:24, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Advice[edit]

I advise you get the Live-DVD/Installer as your first pick incase you need to install ndiswrapper (setup your internet cards). That way you'll have an OS to go back to with working internet incase things don't work.

Also, if you're new with linux, you may want to check up on what type of wireless card you have. Also check this list to see if your wireless card is listed.

--Cyberman 08:37, August 8, 2005 (UTC)

This isn't really relevant to Kubuntu in an encyclopedic sense, more a forums sense.-localzuk 20:46, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Kubuntu defined[edit]

Kubuntu = KDE/Ubuntu/Debian/GNU/Linux. —Ashley Y 02:57, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

What? Do you want this including as information? If so it is already included (KDE and ubuntu are mentioned directly, debian and linux indirectly through the ubuntu page).-localzuk 20:46, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
Also, "Kubuntu" backwards spells "utnubuk". AFAIK this is not a word in any language. —Ashley Y 23:12, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
What? You seem to be making pointless comments here. What is your point? -localzuk 23:15, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
Loading his edit counter, I suspect. Eddie.willers 02:44, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Independent install[edit]

The sentence

Kubuntu is an official derivation of the Ubuntu Linux desktop operating system providing KDE support. It is part of Ubuntu; but can be installed independently from Ubuntu.

does not really seem right to me. Ubuntu is the underlying structure for running either ubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop and you can't really install kubuntu without ubuntu. Can we create a more definitive sentence regarding this? Something like:

Kubuntu is an official derivation of the Ubuntu Linux desktop operating system providing KDE support. It is part of the Ubuntu project and uses the underlying system provided by Ubuntu. However, instead of installing the default desktop package, it installs a KDE equivalent desktop (called kubuntu-desktop). Furthermore Kubuntu and Ubuntu can work alongside each other by having both the ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop packages installed.

It isn't perfect but it provides a better insight into kubuntu IMO.-localzuk 00:06, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Yes, I agree, your definitive sentence is better.
I have changed the sentence now. -localzuk 14:49, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Kubuntu's meaning[edit]

Does Kubuntu really mean "towards humanity"? According to the Ubuntu article, ubuntu means "humanity towards others." Does the K + ubuntu form a different word in the Bemba language, or is this an error in the article? -cprompt 04:00, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

the 'k' is derived from the KDE (K Desktop Environment) - 24.149.167.62 21:31, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
I don't think that's what he's asking. Anyway, from what I know as a Kubuntu user, the name was thought up of by the folks at Canonical, and they did find that "kubuntu" did indeed mean "towards humanity" in Bemba when doing research about the name. --NeoChaosX 00:58, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
This is very possible. "K" does mean "towards" in some languages, for example it means "towards" in Czech. Believe it or not, even distant languages do have things in common, and you will find similarities among a lot of different languages across language families. --Putzina —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.196.218.40 (talk) 00:08, 1 May 2007 (UTC).
Nah, in this case it's just pure coincidence – not surprising when talking about a word with a single sound. The preposition k common to Slavic languages (which descends from Proto-Slavic *ku(n)) is cognate with Latin cum, though. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 20:56, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

notability?[edit]

What's the justification for having this as a separate article from ubuntu? Are there download figures, distro reviews, or anything in the way of independent, verifiable coverage? -- nae'blis 21:34, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

It has a different article because it is a somewhat different product. We have a Windows XP article and a Windows Server article, and for the same reason we have an Ubuntu article and a Kubuntu article. --I80and 00:18, 11 November 2006 (UTC)


hybridisation[edit]

I just wrote the section explaining that one can mix and match. I don't want to list my own recommendations in the article (because it would violate NPOV), but I think they may nevertheless be helpful. So, I list them here for reference. Personally, I recommend:

  Ubuntu installer (GTK)
  KDE desktop (Qt)
  Klipper (Qt)
  synaptic package manager (GTK)
  abiword/gnumeric   (GTK)
  firefox and konqueror (GTK/Qt)
  amarok (Qt)
  kwrite (Qt)
  konsole (Qt)
  a mix of the kcontrol and gnome-admin packages
  xscreensaver (neither gnome not Qt)
  mplayer/xmms (neither)

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.187.165.114 (talk) 09:48, 10 December 2006 (UTC).

Free[edit]

I noticed that an anonymous editor removed "(as in beer)" from the definition of Kubuntu. I added this back in to match the website linked as the reference. It should also be noted that free (as in beer) is a reference to clarify in US English; the difference between things that are free (e.g. cost) and people (e.g. rights, liberties and whatnot) --Manzabar 20:34, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Kubuntuguide[edit]

Please include an external link to the unofficial guide of Kubuntu: kubuntuguide.org I noticed it has been removed without clarifications.

See WP:EXTERNAL on external link guidelines. NeoChaosX (talk, walk) 19:59, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

I still don't see what's wrong with Kubuntuguide.

Why is no one updating on this issue? 03 aug 2007

I agree with you. Kubuntuguide is one of the better guides for this operating system. Removal is simply a matter of wiki vandalism, just like the removal of facts with references. Perspectoff (talk) 06:37, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Quality issues[edit]

I think "questionable" to say it mildly quality of Kubuntu Gutsy should be reflected (Dolphin is beta quality at best, Strigi?! the one included is of joke-quality frankly). I have serious problems recommending it to anyone. What's really changed in Kubuntu compared to Feisty? (for the better). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.148.150.161 (talk) 18:22, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

KDE version in 8.04[edit]

Do we know yet if Kubuntu 8.04 is going to have KDE 4? --Explodicle 21:26, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes, but as a separate KDE4 CD. Since 8.04 is going to be a long-term support release, the Kubuntu team agreed that the default KDE version will be the stable 3.5.x versions. NeoChaosX (talk, walk) 22:31, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Thanks! I'll add it to the article. --Explodicle 15:42, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Well, according to the Kubuntu team 8.04 is not going to be LTS version. Did it change? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.8.162.105 (talk) 12:40, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Disputed non-free use rationale for File:Kubuntuoffice.png[edit]

Missing Source in Quality section.[edit]

"Before Kubuntu 10.10, there was some aggravation by members of the community and general reputation online was a commonly negative one. The Kubuntu team sought to remedy this negative impression."- Can we get a source on this? --70.240.67.167 (talk) 13:35, 14 June 2011 (UTC)