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LAV III Crew[edit]

Reverted 205.206.153.235's edit to an earlier one and left the following message on his/her talk page:

The LAV III article you edited refers to the vehicle used by the Canadian and New Zealand militaries. As such, the information regarding "7 troops" was taken directly from (and referenced to) the Canadian National Defence website, which I invite you to verify. Upon verification, you will notice that the crew is indeed made up of a vehicle commander, a gunner, a driver, and 7 infantry soldiers — not 8. — Dorvaq (talk) 14:50, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Use of the name 'Kodiak'[edit]

I've yet to find an official source referring to this vehicle as 'Kodiak'. The name was proposed, but never adopted. I'm removing references to 'Kodiak' until an official source is cited that describes it as such (DnD, other government sources etc.) - Jonathon A H (talk) 21:19, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Proposal for Merger with NZLAV[edit]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
Consensus here seems to be to merge the NZLAV article into LAV III. No major differences in the vehicles stated. -Fnlayson (talk) 17:30, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

See: NZLAV

Articles describe the same vehicle. There are no significant differences between the Canadian and New Zealand versions of the LAV III. Unique elements on the New Zealand page can be incorporated into a section for LAV III in NZ service on the LAV III page. - Jonathon A H (talk) 00:09, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

That seems sensible. It would be possible to write a full article on the NZLAV as their procurement was controversial and sparked a government inquiry, but that could always be split out if anyone ever writes this. Nick-D (talk) 11:29, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
I disagree. While the articles are related, there is actually very little overlap. Readers interested in the LAV III are very unlikely to care how many NZLAV are sent to which NZ regiment.
A merge is a serious disservice to anyone who wants to have NZLAV on their watchlist, but not LAV II, or vice versa. Geo Swan (talk) 05:07, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
As it stands now, half the background and all of the technical information on the NZLAV page is a duplicate of the information on the LAV III page. The only unique pieces information on the NZLAV page are the distribution among NZ military units, and variants in use, so it is, in fact, mostly overlap. All of this information could be easily incorporated into the LAV III article under a separate section for New Zealand. It isn't a unique vehicle, it doesn't have a unique production history, and most other military equipment articles don't have a separate page for international users simply because that country chose a different name for it. It's a needless duplication of effort. Anyone who actually has NZLAV on their watchlist has had ample time to reply to the proposal merger notice, and the NZLAV links will simply redirect to LAV III, so no one will be missing out on information. - Jonathon A H (talk) 19:15, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
Agree. As it stands, I don’t see why it can’t be a section on the LAV III. If there is some substantial information on its purchase (a controversy) then it might warrant its own article. But not as it currently stands. Chwyatt (talk) 08:44, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
Disagree. I am a New Zealander This page belongs as separate and specific to New Zealand. NZ has a serious transport issue and an armour issue. Due to available limitation of funds, time of aquisition, limited use to date and inability of some government members to forsee there could be a need in the future, politics-always politics, and distance from anywhere else. The Nz Lav is up for change and specifying to this countries unique usage requirements. Further more the page is strikingly shallow in information and this will change. There arn't many of us- i know the other four million by first name- so it will take some time for information to be lodged but it will come. Leave our page alone. To use a New Zealand colloquialism Bugger Off!. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.153.21.202 (talk) 21:30, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
I don't think nationalism is a valid reason for the page to exist separately. The page has existed for over three years now, and the only unique information on the page are the variants, and distribution. If and when there is enough information to distinguish the NZLAV from the LAV III, then it should have it's own page, not before, and not on the hope that 'there will be more'. The NZLAV is just a LAV III by another name... it's like making the argument that there should be a page for every international user of the Centurion, or M60, or M113. - Jonathon A H (talk) 13:26, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
"it's like making the argument that there should be a page for every international user of the Centurion, or M60, or M113" Good point Jonathon. Seems to me like this discussion is resolved. Every uniquely NZ point can easily be incorporated into a main LAV article. Chwyatt (talk) 08:05, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
I disagree. These IFV aren`t the same vehicle, the specifications on all of them are significally different, don't merge these; because the canadian variant is totally different of tne newzealandese version. Flag of Colombia.svg Pliniochaaaaaaaaaaan!!! (Discussion) 16:24, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

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