Talk:Lady Macbeth

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Intro[edit]

I have removed the 2nd part of the Intro due to it feeling out of place. May be it could be rewritten? Chrissmith 11:52, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

A poor mother?[edit]

I made slight edits to the text because i felt the line "that she is a poor mother" was strangely worded (i don't think her mothering skills are in question!)


-It's also acontextual, she compares the act of killing her own child to the act of killing a king (who in many ways fills a paternal role). One could look at this as an example of Lady M endorsing standered gender roles, (women deal with babies and men with government) but it's not overly relevent as that was A) the prevailing veiw of the time and B)ment to enforce to the audience the gravity of killing a king, and Lady M's willingness to be so vile. The rest of the paragraph is interesting, and i'll leave it in, but i'm cliping the reference to that line. Bigmacd24 22:15, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Lady Macbeth as Personification of Macbeth's Ambition[edit]

It is discussed nowhere in the article the interpretation of Lady Macbeth as a representation of Macbeth's ambition, in conflict with his loyal and softer side, dipicted as the witch-like Lady Macbeth. Though this interpretation is largely disputed, there is a certainly evidence to support it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PartiyaLenina (talkcontribs) 14:19, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Expansion[edit]

This article is really far too incomplete. Lady Macbeth is reputed to be one of the most difficult female roles in theatre; from this article, you'd barely know it as she comes off as a one-dimension cardboard character. Crystallina 03:03, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

who says she was a mother?! there is no proof! but i do think .. if she was a mother.. she would have been a disater! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.33.48.6 (talk) 12:08, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

There is proof, actually. In the text she says she was, and that she knows what it is t have a child at you breast. Also, the historical lady she is based on had several children which died young. Wrad 15:28, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

NOT a 1-D Character!!![edit]

This is ridiculous. This article needs to be lengthened. I don't have the resources or the knowledge to do so, so I am basically whining about something that I don't intend to fix. But this needs to be fleshed out. Lady Macbeth isn't a 1-D character, she's a 3-D walking masterpiece. She should be treated like one.

That's what I said, basically. I didn't mean to imply she was. Crystallina 16:41, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Lack of Info[edit]

"she is the standard template for a wife using her husband to further her own ambition."

  • Sorry, I can't quite accept this. I see noting in the text to imply that she is out to better "her own" ambition. She is Macbeth's "greatest partner in greatness" and is, moreover, trying to fulfil the witches' prophecy that her husband will become king- because she feels he deserves more, not her. There is indeed a lot that needs clearing up here.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.81.33.111 (talkcontribs)
I second you on your view of Lady Macbeth. Sciurinæ 13:25, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
  • (Thanks very much, Sciurinæ) But I'm afraid I'm still not satisfied. The following:

"She manipulates her husband, Macbeth of Scotland, into committing a series of brutal murders in order to clear their path to the Scottish throne. To that end, Macbeth murders King Duncan, his best friend Banquo, and Thane Macduff's entire family."

is, in my view, inaccurate. She prompts her husband into killing Duncan, yes, but Banquo and Macduff... I mean to say, Macbeth mentions that he is contemplating the death of Banquo after the murder of Duncan, but she is by no means as obsessive about making sure his rival "snuffs it" as she was with Duncan. Indeed, by the time her husband gets round to talking about Macduff (by his own initiative), she is more or less telling him to snap out of it. I did not change the above quotation, however, in case some view the manipulation her husband into killing Duncan as making him paranoid and bloodthirsty, thereby making her the indirect cause of Banquo and the clan Macduff's death. Sorry if I'm getting pedantic here. I don't now what anyone else thinks...?—Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.81.33.111 (talkcontribs)

No, you're not being pendantic. I agree with you about the sentence and I've now rewritten much of the article. Comments for improvement are appreciated. Sciurinæ 14:40, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Removal of tags[edit]

The majority of this article IS written from an in-universe perspective. The character overview needs rewriting to focus on the characterization, not the plot. Kyaa the Catlord (talk) 10:39, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Did the old man murder his son or what?[edit]

In this Wikipedia posting of Lady Macbeth it reads "he has his best friend, Banquo, and his son, Fleance, murdered in order to keep the Scottish throne, Banquo himself having received the prediction that his children would be kings, although he would never sit on a throne. Banquo is successfully murdered but Fleance manages to escape the murderers."

If Fleance escaped the murderers how could he be murdered?

Also, the posting reads like a legal document with run-on sentences and verbosity. The writer hasn't taken to heart Shakespeare's famous line "brevity is the soul of wit" in putting together his/her 'word salad' sentences.

Supracoriolis, October 4, 2008 Supracoriolis (talk) 13:29, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Analysis[edit]

I'm finding the recent additions to the article about anti-mother, witch-hood, gender-sterotyping eccentric but have returned them to the page. ItsLassieTime (talk) 15:47, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

They're eccentric, but they seem out of balance with the rest of the article. The "anti-mother", "witch" and "gender-stereotype" criticisms combine to 1429 words. The section on her actual role in the play runs under 300. 24.180.57.90 (talk) 23:18, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

GA Review[edit]

You can read the GA review here --Ravpapa (talk) 18:54, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Synopsis needs work.[edit]

King Duncan is discussed in the second paragraph without introduction or explanation. Perhaps an editing error.

70.176.32.199 (talk) 21:19, 3 January 2015 (UTC)