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Reason for tagging[edit]

The article is Irish language centric, whats the point of quoting figures on outside Ireland when its supposed to be an article on the Republic of Ireland? It gives no citations for the figures, just Government of Ireland 2004 - what department, office, etc - and specific publication? The section entitled "Other Languages from Ireland" - what exactly is this about? The final section says "...English is favoured in more urban areas", so what is "favored" outside these areas, do the "rural" people speak Irish or maybe Scottish Gaelic or Welsh? In the final paragraph why mention "he quickly growing Muslim minority" as if language is religion specific - and again a Irish centric claim to finish the article - are their any attempts to teach English, etc. Djegan 20:38, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, this is probably the worst page I've seen on wikipedia, the claims about use of Irish outside Ireland are highly spurious and I seriously doubt them, I'll try clean it up a bit. - User:Dalta
I wonder if the assertions that English is considered cooler that Irish and that irish is seen as backward are both rather passé as of 2006CE. I worked with several Irish people in professional settings all over Europe, and in my sample of dozens of highly educated and cosmopolitan types, ALL claimed they could speak Irish and I roughly heard one in three using it when phoning home - can't say whether out of habit, or as a means of ensuring their privacy when no other Irish people were present. User:Spamhog


Norman-French spoken in Wexford? Surely this is bogus, cannot find a credible reference for it anywhere. Maybe confusion with Yola? Could any experts or original editor clarify? User:thomasbrunkard —Preceding undated comment was added at 13:42, 9 December 2008 (UTC).[reply]

Official Languages?[edit]

Shouldn't this be changed? English is the most widely spoken, but Gaeilge (Irish) is still the official language of Ireland. It's not an official language of the Irish goverment. Irish Plusle 10:08, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Official Languages Act 2003[edit]

The Official Languages Act 2003 gave many new rights to Irish citizens with respect to the Irish language, including the use of Irish in court proceedings.[citation needed] All Dáil debates are to be recorded in Irish also. In 2007, Irish became the 21st official language of the European Union. Éire is the Irish spelling of Ireland, and is being used to promote the Irish language throughout Europe.

I find the above paragraph not to be a true reflection of the state of affairs regarding this Act

No new rights were created by this Act![[1]] The Language Commissioner states that; "The basic principles regarding the language rights of the public are set out in the Constitution of Ireland.

As a consequence of the right to conduct all business with the State through Irish, it follows that public bodies have a duty to act in accordance with that right.

In practice, however, it often happened that no effective provision had been made to provide sufficient service in Irish as well as providing service in English.

Furthermore, people who wished to conduct their business in Irish with the State often felt that they had no option but to put aside their constitutional rights and their choice of language and resort to using the second official language in order to have their business conducted properly.

It is the Courts alone who make legal decisions with regard to constitutional rights."

As regards; "Éire is the Irish spelling of Ireland,.." This is true if we also accept that Ireland is the English spelling of Éire!

What the author has in mind by the next statement "...and is being used to promote the Irish language throughout Europe" is also slightly baffeling! I very much doubt that the dual name for Belgium 'Belgie Belgique' is used by the Belgian Government for language promotion throughout Europe and there is no evidence that the Irish Government or the EU is doing anything other than what is normal in placing the official names of a mamber state on name plates at meetings etc.Eog1916 (talk) 16:27, 17 March 2008 (UTC) [reply]

"of Ireland"[edit]

This is about languages spoken in the Republic and Northern Ireland, so comments on the 2003 Official Languages Act should reflect that it is an Act of the Republic only.86.42.221.83 (talk) 17:25, 7 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bosnian and Serbo-Croat[edit]

Bosnian is a variant of Serbo-Croatian, so how can these phrases be so different? "Riva Fe Nora" does not seem to be anything Slavic (but "Vratic u Vodu Ziva" does). The last phrase, "Vse Ribi Dolzni Otpysceni V Vody Zivimi", is in fact Russian (Все рыбы должны быть отпущены в воду живыми, with the word быть omitted), but written in a loose transliteration.Burzuchius (talk) 18:09, 13 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Duplication[edit]

Re the Languages of the British Isles see [2]

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"Irish languages (disambiguation)" listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Irish languages (disambiguation). Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. signed, Rosguill talk 18:53, 13 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Official Languages[edit]

Would like to change "English" in the official languages section to "Hiberno-English", would also like to add Shelta, Irish Sign Language, and Ulster-Scots to the official language section.

Prehistoric languages - the 17th century AD ??[edit]

User:Rosguill Hello, in the paragraph 'Prehistoric languages' one finds: "The earliest linguistic records in Ireland are of Primitive Irish, from about the 17th century AD" which seems to be wrong as ogham alphabet in Ireland is from around the 4th to the 7th or 8th centuries (article 'Primitive Irish'). But nothing here asserts it should be 17th century BC instead. Hexagone59 (talk) 20:55, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hexagone59, I'm not sure why you've pinged me to this discussion, but the claim of 17th century AD as a prehistoric language seems pretty obviously incorrect. If no sources can be find to support actual prehistoric language, then the content should just be removed entirely. signed, Rosguill talk 21:16, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Imperfect translation?[edit]

The text under the "catch and release" sign claims that the translations are imperfect. However, I can certify that the German version is perfect, and it even has the correct "Umlaut" in one word (ü). The French version also looks just fine to me, except capitalization of two words. If anybody could confirm the other translations, the text should be rephrased. --Aecur (talk) 11:57, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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